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KashMoneyExotics

KashMoneyExotics

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Finally my first eggs hatched the last and only 2 I had has hatched today. Im so excited. Not sure what they are though. The pairing was a bold stripe x mack snow jungle reverse stripe. One looks jungle and the other looks like a normal strip judging from their tails. They both have solid black eyes and white tail tips. Time will tell to see what they are. They hatched on day 46. Im so happy
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acpart

acpart

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Congratulations! I know it's been a long road for you. They both have nice striped tails and sort of wavy body bands. If the body bands really aren't broken, I'd have to say they're aberrant (but you can market them as "aberrant with nice striped tails). If you feel the body bands are broken, then you could call them jungles. Keep watch on the eyes. Sometimes they start out as solid black but as they get a bit bigger you can see that they're normal eyes.

Aliza
 
acpart

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Aberrant is where the horizontal tail bands or body bands (the black bands) are broken but not both. Normal leopard geckos are born banded with alternating black and yellow. If the bands get a bit broken so they don't go all the way from one side of the gecko to the other, the gecko is called "jungle". If each band is broken through the middle, then you end up with partial bands on each side of the gecko and it forms a vertical stripe. If the bands are broken to the extent that they disappear or nearly disappear the gecko is called a patternless stripe.

In the case of your hatchlings, the tail bands have been broken to the extent where each tail has an almost perfect stripe. The body bands look to be unbroken, though there's at least 1 wavy band on each gecko. Look at them carefully (this is the best age to do it, because as they mature the bands will break up into spots). If you feel that the body bands are broken at all, you could call them "jungles". If not, they're "aberrant" because the tail bands (and not the body bands) are broken. It's more common for geckos to have jungly or striped bodies and banded tails, but you can get it the other way as well.

Does that make sense?

Aliza
 
Dinosaur!

Dinosaur!

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Congrats! I'm glad these ones decided to hatch for you, seeing how uncooperative your last clutch was. Keep us posted on how they grow (while you have them anyways)! I'm curious on how the one on the left will develop! :D
 
DrCarrotTail

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They tend to shed about 3 days after hatching but depending on how long they stayed in the egg it can be more immediate or take a few days longer. Most of the pattern terms, stripe/aberrant/jungle/partial stripe/circle back/etc are fairly general terms just used to describe the pattern. This is basically what I've read about them:

Aberrant: Some deviance from normal bands on either body or tail.
Jungle: Quite a bit of deviance from normal bands on both body and tail. Usually connected to a stripe pattern breeding.
Partial Stripe: Obvious stripe on either body or tail that may be significantly broken in some places or body or tail may have normal bands.
Stripe: Obvious stripe on both body and tail that may have minor flaws or breaks but is pretty consistent.
Jungle strip: Obvious stripe on either body or tail with the other part (body or tail) having irregular bands.

For me, if a gecko is really close to normal but just slightly different or is hard to place in one of these categories I don't label them as anything and let the patterns speak for themselves. For my hypos I provide baby pictures as the patterns disappear within a couple months. Totally an individual choice:)
 
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