Some of the males.

Kristi23 · Feb 17, 2015

A few are a bit skinny right now because of winter slow down and then getting into breeding already. Hopefully their appetites will pick up soon. Even the thin ones are still over 70 grams, but they look best around 80-85.

Damien (eclipse het tremper)

Rafe (eclipse het tremper)

Felix (sunglow bell het eclipse)

Rynn (montanus tremper het eclipse) who isn't breeding right now, but has slowed down on eating since he smells ovulating girls

Truman (mack raptor)

Kit (fascio cross super snow eclipse het tremper) he's a slow grower and not breeding yet

staceyleigh · Feb 18, 2015

All gorgeous, but I really love Truman and Kit! I have a female that would go so well with Kit!

Kristi23 · Feb 18, 2015

staceyleigh said:
All gorgeous, but I really love Truman and Kit! I have a female that would go so well with Kit!

Kit has been so frustrating because he only eats a few worms at a time. Two of this three girls have already started ovulating and he's just gotten up to 45-47 grams now. He's a stubborn boy. Hoping he hits the weight before the final girl ovulates.

cowana · Feb 18, 2015

I really like Kit as well. I love the bold white face on him. I have a thing for the different snow eclipses. I hope you can get his weight up.

Boa'sUnlimited · Feb 18, 2015

Wow those eclipses! do they look different because they're het Tremp? because I have a Snake Eye'd Eclipse (only visual genes) and he looks nothing like that o.0

Kristi23 · Feb 18, 2015

Boa'sUnlimited said:
Wow those eclipses! do they look different because they're het Tremp? because I have a Snake Eye'd Eclipse (only visual genes) and he looks nothing like that o.0

There is a huge variety in how eclipse look. I somewhat line breed (mostly patternless stripe eclipse) to get a more orange look. Not all mine end up being het tremper and many still look like that.

Boa'sUnlimited · Feb 18, 2015

Kristi23 said:
There is a huge variety in how eclipse look. I somewhat line breed (mostly patternless stripe eclipse) to get a more orange look. Not all mine end up being het tremper and many still look like that.

Awesome! I learn something new every day :d

and do you have pics of a Tremper Eclipse? I'm personally curious about how they'd look

Kristi23 · Feb 18, 2015

Boa'sUnlimited said:
Awesome! I learn something new every day :d

and do you have pics of a Tremper Eclipse? I'm personally curious about how they'd look

That would be a raptor. This is only one of the ones I've produced.

staceyleigh · Feb 22, 2015

Kristy, where did you get Kit? This is my Bellatrix (purchased from Gulf Coast Geckos) , just mated her today with a MSE Male.

Boa'sUnlimited · Feb 22, 2015

Kristi23 said:
That would be a raptor. This is only one of the ones I've produced.

My apologies, I should have worded my post better: I was saying Tremper Eclipse because I know they aren't "true" raptors, but I've literally never seen a raptor without the patternless/stripe so I was curious because of that xD

And your picture completely fixed that for me, thanks!

Kristi23 · Feb 23, 2015

staceyleigh said:
Kristy, where did you get Kit? This is my Bellatrix (purchased from Gulf Coast Geckos) , just mated her today with a MSE Male.

He is from Michelle at Rampant.

Boa'sUnlimited said:
My apologies, I should have worded my post better: I was saying Tremper Eclipse because I know they aren't "true" raptors, but I've literally never seen a raptor without the patternless/stripe so I was curious because of that xD

And your picture completely fixed that for me, thanks!

A true raptor is a patternless stripe. They hatch without any pattern and most will get pattern as they age. The P in raptor is for patternless stripe and not patternless. It makes it confusing. Adding hypo to a raptor tends to reduce or eliminate pattern as an adult. You can look at sunglow raptors and see that. With the patternless stripes, most will have either stripes or spots as they get older.

This is an example of a patternless stripe (only het for eclipse). You can see the typical pattern and the baby hatched without any pattern.

Boa'sUnlimited · Feb 23, 2015

Kristi23 said:
He is from Michelle at Rampant.

A true raptor is a patternless stripe. They hatch without any pattern and most will get pattern as they age. The P in raptor is for patternless stripe and not patternless. It makes it confusing. Adding hypo to a raptor tends to reduce or eliminate pattern as an adult. You can look at sunglow raptors and see that. With the patternless stripes, most will have either stripes or spots as they get older.

This is an example of a patternless stripe (only het for eclipse). You can see the typical pattern and the baby hatched without any pattern.

I don't think I was explaining myself right somehow lol xD I knew that true raptor = patternless stripe tremper eclipse, but I had never seen a "fake" raptor, or a plain tremper eclipse. So your first pic was right on the mark.

And I think this is where I failed (in bold)

Boa'sUnlimited said:
My apologies, I should have worded my post better: I was saying Tremper Eclipse because I know they aren't "true" raptors, but I've literally never seen a raptor without the patternless/stripe so I was curious because of that xD

And your picture completely fixed that for me, thanks!

That / was accidental. Was supposed to just say patternless stripe

cowana · Feb 23, 2015

Boa'sUnlimited said:
I don't think I was explaining myself right somehow lol xD I knew that true raptor = patternless stripe tremper eclipse, but I had never seen a "fake" raptor, or a plain tremper eclipse. So your first pic was right on the mark.

And I think this is where I failed (in bold)

That / was accidental. Was supposed to just say patternless stripe

Are you thinking of a Tremper Patternless Albino?

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