Hmm what morph is this baby?

mörten

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Hello everyone!

I recently hatched a beautiful little baby that confuses me. Could you guys help me identifying the moprh on this little one please? Im thinking Tremper, but what confuses me a bit is the orange-ish eyes.

The father of the baby is a SHTCB het Tremper (from a SHTCB x Sunglow) and the mother of the baby is a SHTC (Reverse stripe) het Tremper (from a HTCB x Aptor).

Thanks alot guys!

/Susanna

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Kjenkins

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The banding on it kinda looks like a Tangelo. Good lookin gecko!!

Agreed. A Tangelo is the mixing of any albino and a tangerine. My first gecko was a tangelo. Also I'm wondering if there my have been enigma in there because of the orange eyes. It has white feet but not a white nose so I'm leaning to not an enigma. I don't work with them tho so maybe some one else will know. Those eyes are awesome tho.;)
 

DrCarrotTail

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Definitely looks like a Tremper sunglow. Do either of the parents have orangeish eyes? If so they may be enigma?

I believe Tangelos are a particular line of sunglows with lots of carroting on their heads. I don't think you can make one without stock from Tremper (or decended from his stock).
 

Kjenkins

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Definitely looks like a Tremper sunglow. Do either of the parents have orangeish eyes? If so they may be enigma?

I believe Tangelos are a particular line of sunglows with lots of carroting on their heads. I don't think you can make one without stock from Tremper (or decended from his stock).

Actually that as I said up top is all a tangelo is. Its just the mixing of the tang and an albino. The tangelo and or hyglow is just a selective breed albino plus the tang. Its a sunglow with out the hypo gene. A true sunglow is a hybino (albino+ superhypo with the ray hienz CT) + Tang. So yes you can produce a Tangelo simply by breeding an orange colored albino with a Tang het for said albino or in this case Two tangs het for said albino. I'v been researching a lot of genetics here lately.:D
 

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http://geckoforums.net/f125-morphs-genetics/77108.htm

Interesting read! Lots of big breeders weighed in :)

Wow that turned in to a rant on ron tremper quick. lol Good read tho. Just as I said tho select breed orange albino X Tang het for that albino or albino X Tang and breed back. I can say none of my research was ron tremper related. Yes A and M gecko calls theres a hyglow and ron tremper calls his a tangelo. There the same thing just to diff lines. I do understand how much work by both parties when in to there animal and I'm not trying to disrespect that in any way. That being said they are still the same thing from two diff lines and sunglows are plus the hypo gene. I was just giving a general idea on what each consisted of. I'm contemplating working on my own tangelo or hyglow what ever we want to call them project. I think there really pretty.:D
 

DrCarrotTail

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We were having a similar discussion the other day on Facebook about when does a name become so common place that it no longer represents animals from a specific line and is just a general term to describe the way an animal looks. Tangelo may have moved to that and may no longer signify an animal from Ron's project or there are just a lot of new comers to the hobby that are calling their animals Tangelos because they look similar to one of Ron's. I don't follow the morphs closely enough to know 100% but I was under the impression the term still indicated his bloodlines. That's why I made the comment in the first place. I tend to just call mine sunglows to avoid the whole controversy...haha.
 

Kjenkins

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We were having a similar discussion the other day on Facebook about when does a name become so common place that it no longer represents animals from a specific line and is just a general term to describe the way an animal looks. Tangelo may have moved to that and may no longer signify an animal from Ron's project or there are just a lot of new comers to the hobby that are calling their animals Tangelos because they look similar to one of Ron's. I don't follow the morphs closely enough to know 100% but I was under the impression the term still indicated his bloodlines. That's why I made the comment in the first place. I tend to just call mine sunglows to avoid the whole controversy...haha.

Understandable and I was not meaning that tangelos were not ron tremper's line at all. I was just explaining how you get them. So technically it's not his line so the name would be wrong. This gecko is a sunglow tho for shur. The parents carry the hypo gene. It just all so complicated. I keep a genetics log and put all my research in it. How to get this, were did that come from, who created that. If I didn't keep a log I would be in a padded cell by now. lol I don't think any one can remember everything. At least I know I wouldn't be able to.:D
 

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I guess I'm all old school because I would just call it a tangerine albino. I don't quite get the new names for morphs much and mostly use the genetics to name it.
 

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