Ember glow male

Jay.Sawyer89 · Nov 2, 2015

So i know an ember is Tremper + Eclipse + Murphy Patternless and sorry im still learning here but what makes the "glow".

Thanks

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ehebert · Nov 2, 2015

The glow would be the addition of it being hypo which a Murphy patternless tends to do anyway.

Jay.Sawyer89 · Nov 2, 2015

Thanks for the quick reply .
Should be getting this male in the next 2 weeks.

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Kristi23 · Nov 11, 2015

ehebert said:
The glow would be the addition of it being hypo which a Murphy patternless tends to do anyway.

And then this depends on the breeder, too. We've been seeing glow used a lot lately with no hypo (sunglow) or anything. Just the name for some reason.

I would definitely ask whichever breeder it is. That way you know exactly what the genetics of the animal are to be safe. Ask for baby pics, too. That can help. Most embers I've seen have been completely patternless while that animal above looks like a typical raptor with some reduced pattern.

Jay.Sawyer89 · Nov 13, 2015

Kristi23 said:
And then this depends on the breeder, too. We've been seeing glow used a lot lately with no hypo (sunglow) or anything. Just the name for some reason.

I would definitely ask whichever breeder it is. That way you know exactly what the genetics of the animal are to be safe. Ask for baby pics, too. That can help. Most embers I've seen have been completely patternless while that animal above looks like a typical raptor with some reduced pattern.

Ember Glows are Ember X Sunglow, line bred. Embers+are+Murphy Patternless Albino,+TremperAlbino and Eclipse,+Sunglows+are+Tremper+Albinos.

That is what i got from the breeder also hopefully getting some hatchling pics soon.

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Kristi23 · Nov 13, 2015

Jay.Sawyer89 said:
Ember Glows are Ember X Sunglow, line bred. Embers+are+Murphy Patternless Albino,+TremperAlbino and Eclipse,+Sunglows+are+Tremper+Albinos.

That is what i got from the breeder also hopefully getting some hatchling pics soon.

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It's either a visual ember or it's not. I would not trust that breeder if it was me. If it's an ember x sunglow, you are buying an animal that is not a visual mp, but a het mp. That explains why the animal looks like a raptor. The sunglow must have been het eclipse to get the raptor.

kkigs · Nov 25, 2015

Kristi23 said:
It's either a visual ember or it's not. I would not trust that breeder if it was me. If it's an ember x sunglow, you are buying an animal that is not a visual mp, but a het mp. That explains why the animal looks like a raptor. The sunglow must have been het eclipse to get the raptor.

Hahahaha, "would not trust that breeder". That about sums it up. Slapping names on things does not a breeder make...

KDesautels08 · Nov 29, 2015

Jay.Sawyer89 said:
So i know an ember is Tremper + Eclipse + Murphy Patternless and sorry im still learning here but what makes the "glow".

Thanks

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A "glow" refers to an Albino SHTCT (super hypo tangerine carrot tail)... An "Ember" is a Patternless Raptor (Tremper Eclipse).. So a glow ember to me would imply: a SHTCT Patternless Raptor

Kristi23 · Nov 29, 2015

KDesautels08 said:
A "glow" refers to an Albino SHTCT (super hypo tangerine carrot tail)... An "Ember" is a Patternless Raptor (Tremper Eclipse).. So a glow ember to me would imply: a SHTCT Patternless Raptor

An Ember is a murphy patternless raptor (not to be confused with patternless stripe). This breeder is saying that he's crossing sunglows with embers to make ember glows. The problem is that the murphy patternless isn't visible in those animals which makes them sunglows het eclipse het mp. The one pictured above looks like a raptor that is probably het mp. An ember must have both mp, tremper, and eclipse all as visual morphs or it is not an ember.

KDesautels08 · Nov 30, 2015

Kristi23 said:
An Ember is a murphy patternless raptor (not to be confused with patternless stripe). This breeder is saying that he's crossing sunglows with embers to make ember glows. The problem is that the murphy patternless isn't visible in those animals which makes them sunglows het eclipse het mp. The one pictured above looks like a raptor that is probably het mp. An ember must have both mp, tremper, and eclipse all as visual morphs or it is not an ember.

I said an ember was a patternless raptor.. I agree you definately cant see the MP.. I thought this person was saying they had a Ember Glow. Not an Ember x Sunglow.. if that the case, you would be correct in saying Tremper sunglow het Eclipse/MP

Kristi23 · Nov 30, 2015

KDesautels08 said:
I said an ember was a patternless raptor.. I agree you definately cant see the MP.. I thought this person was saying they had a Ember Glow. Not an Ember x Sunglow.. if that the case, you would be correct in saying Tremper sunglow het Eclipse/MP

A lot of people are confused by patternless because they assume the P in raptor is for MP instead of patternless stripe.

This breeder was called out months ago after someone bought an ember glow thinking it would be a visual ember. They were pretty upset. There is quite a bit of info on fauna and facebook.

Glow is now a term being thrown around a lot for no reason at all. For anyone looking to buy a glow (besides the normal sunglow, snowglow, etc) please make sure you ask the breeder what all the genetics are. That way you know what you are getting.

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