Albinism strain question.

Christywoowoo · May 21, 2016

So I have an identified male snow bell albino

And a blizzard female

Would the babies be both albino and blizzard?
They would be considered bell blizzards?
Or would I hit normals as both are recessive?
If I hit normals, would they be het for both bell albino and blizzard?

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indyana · May 22, 2016

Recessive traits need two copies and each parent can only provide one, so you are correct in that all babies will be het for Bell Albino and Blizzard.

Because the male is a Snow (assuming Mack Snow), you will get both Snows and normals (all het for Bell Albino and Blizzard).

I strongly recommend reading an intro to leopard gecko genetics before you start breeding. John Scarbrough of GeckoBoa has written a good one:
Leopard Gecko Genetics - GeckoBoa Reptiles

Christywoowoo · May 22, 2016

I've read several intros, several articles on ethics, muddy waters, etc.
and I understand simple dominant and recessive traits and alleles, but don't understand how you get a blazing blizzard.

Everywhere I read it says albino + blizzard.
Do the offspring need two copies of each?
How would you achieve this?

I'm going to assume they need two copies of each since only two bell blazings have ever been produced, but im curious as to how this happens

Does this apply to the "banana blizzard"
With 2 copies of the blizzard gene and 2 copies of the murphy's?
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DiAmoroso · May 22, 2016

Yes, it will take at least two generations to get a Bell Blizzard. Like you said, it needs two copies of each trait. Also, at this point there are a lot more than two Bell Blizzards out there.

Christywoowoo · May 22, 2016

Thank you both, you've been very helpful ^^

acpart · May 22, 2016

In case it wasn't entirely clear: the offspring will be het for both albino and blizzard. If you breed the offspring to each other, some will get 2 copies of both the albino and the blizzard gene and these will be blazing blizzards. Obviously you'll have to produce both males and females to get this to work.

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Alceste · May 23, 2016

Reading through this post I think its also worth noting that the odds you will hit on both recessives from double het parents are 1/16. So with luck it's a 2 generation project, but more realistically a 3.

Christywoowoo · May 23, 2016

Update: I have them housed together, he shook his tail at first but she isn't receptive yet, so that's all that happened.

They've ignored each other since then, staying in different hides in a 20gal.

Can the male sense when she is ovulating?

She also did something odd yesterday.
I had fed her 2 waxworms and then a cricket a few hours later, she bit the cricket and spit it out, killing it so i couldn't feed it to anyone else. She was probably wanting another waxworm instead

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telliott4 · May 27, 2016

I'm surprised no one pointed out the blizzard could be het albino. You could cross albino strains if it's het Tremper or Rainwater.

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Christywoowoo · May 27, 2016

She was from a breeder I have a level of respect for. She would have been listed as a het. The chances that she is het albino are very low.

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