Mack Snow Tremper Albino het raptor X Sunglow het Raptor

• Aug 26, 2016

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Hi. Can you tell me what morph is it? Parents are Mack Snow Tremper Albino het raptor and Sunglow het Raptor.

Few days after hatch:


Two months later:

 

• Aug 27, 2016

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Are the eyes solid, snake eye or normal? Is there any chance that the Sunglow is also a Mack Snow (I have a breeder that I bought as an Aptor and it turned out to be a Mack snow as well, since I got super snows when I paired it with a snow). It's a snow as far as I can tell, and, of course an albino. The fact that it hatched with no markings and now has stripes makes me wonder if it could be a super snow (which is why I asked the question above).

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• Aug 29, 2016

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As far as I can see, it is a Raptor (Patternless stripe), maybe Mack Snow

 

• Aug 29, 2016

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I have not yet had a non-super snow gecko hatch with absolutely no pattern on both tail and body, which makes me think it could be a supersnow. I've hatched 5 of these (supersnow albino, possibly eclipse as well):



technically it could be called a "super raptor" but I'm hesitant to do that because I can't tell for sure whether or not it's an eclipse since it has solid eyes due to being a super snow.

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• Aug 29, 2016

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I also see a raptor that's a possible snow. The albino super snows that I've hatched are very white/pink when they hatch and show no yellow as they grow. They're white and black or brown/tan depending on if they're albino or not.

 

• Aug 30, 2016

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So far, even after 2 months, my albino super snows have not developed any brown pattern and remain white.

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• Aug 31, 2016

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It is a mack tremper eclipse.

 

• Aug 31, 2016

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acpart said:

So far, even after 2 months, my albino super snows have not developed any brown pattern and remain white.

Aliza

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What about the parents, are they Eclipse?

 

• Aug 31, 2016

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The parents are Mack snow Tremper het eclipse x Mack snow Tremper patternless stripe het eclipse (aka "snow aptor het raptor").

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• Aug 31, 2016

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geckolabs said:

It is a mack tremper eclipse.

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So are you saying that if it were a mack snow tremper non-eclipse it would develop beige striping, but if it's an eclipse it won't develop beige striping? I expected these guys to hatch pure white (like the non-tremper mack super snows hatch pale silver), but I was expecting that they would eventually develop beige striping just like the non-albino super snows develop black striping.

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• Sep 3, 2016

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acpart said:

So are you saying that if it were a mack snow tremper non-eclipse it would develop beige striping, but if it's an eclipse it won't develop beige striping? I expected these guys to hatch pure white (like the non-tremper mack super snows hatch pale silver), but I was expecting that they would eventually develop beige striping just like the non-albino super snows develop black striping.

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No? I'm saying that the animal in question from the original post, based on the overall coloration and morphogenic development, it a mack tremper eclipse.
Hatching with the washed out patternless stripe being the first clue, suggesting it to be very likely eclipse, but not definite yet. But with the development- overall typical patternless stripe changes, washed out face and legs, and what I presume to be largely eclipsed eyes.

 

• Sep 5, 2016

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Parents are MS tremper Albino het. raptor and Sunglow het Raptor - I'm 100% sure.

How about Snowglow Raptor? Mack Snow Hypo Tremper Albino Eclipse.

Eyes are solid red.

 

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• Sep 5, 2016

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sebekol said:

Parents are MS tremper Albino het. raptor and Sunglow het Raptor - I'm 100% sure.

How about Snowglow Raptor? Mack Snow Hypo Tremper Albino Eclipse.

Eyes are solid red.

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I personally stray from using line names with my animals, as there are specific 'snowglow' lines. And labeling a first generation animal from a pairing not aimed to produce animals that do the name justice, is misleading.

But I'm a person that doesn't even use combo morph names. So take it as you will. I prefer complete transparency.

 

• Sep 6, 2016

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"Sunglow" refers to a superhypo gecko that started out banded and lost the contrasting color. Technically, "raptor" refers to a patternless stripe gecko, so I don't think you can really say "sunglow raptor".

Aliza