Help me identify my favorite hatchling

Kmay571

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When this little brat hatched I fell in love. I have never seen such a beautiful gecko in my mind and I'm so proud to have produced it. My only issue is that I've never seen another gecko like it and can't identify its morph.
His mother was an emerine enigma het
cyclone and the father is a snow typhoon with no hets from a red stripe line.

I know s/he is a rainwater enigma, but s/he looks so different from pictures I've seen.

Also, you you think male or female? I hero going back and forth but my other geckos it's age have shown definite sex but this one has not.

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Kmay571

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Update:
In the picture s/he is about to shed and looks quite dull. S/he is normally very bright colored.


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Neon Aurora

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So hold on, I'm getting a little confused with the combo morph names. Am I correct in saying your pairing was: Emerine Enigma het Rainwater Albino, Murphy's Patternless, and Eclipse x Mack Snow Rainwater Albino Eclipse?

So my best guess without hatchling pictures would be Enigma het Rainwater Albino (100%), Eclipse (100%), and Murphy's Patternless (50%). With hatchling pictures, we could say if it is also a snow. I noticed you say you know it's a rainwater enigma, but I'm not sure I agree. It doesn't look albino to me. The spots look pretty black. I also see something like a stripe (which would make sense since one parent has redstripe in its lineage), but that would also be better confirmed with a hatchling picture.

To me it looks like a newly developing male, but it's hard to say at that size for sure. Not all geckos develop at the same rate. What were its incubation temps?
 
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acpart

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It doesn't look albino to me either. The pattern that has caught your eye looks to me like a reverse stripe that has now gone from a solid stripe to spots.

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Kmay571

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His eyes are rust red though. I thought that was a sign of albinism. And his sports are brown.i attached his hatchling pics.

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Neon Aurora

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I'm pretty sure that isn't albino. The spots look too dark and the eyes, too. The orange/red coloration in the eyes comes from the enigma.

The hatchling picks don't look like he is a snow.

I'm not sure if he is eclipse or not. I don't see many eclipse markers (White feet or nose), but the eyes look like he could be.

So I would say he is one of two things: Enigma het Rainwater (100%), Eclipse (100%), and Patternless (50%) OR Enigma Eclipse het Rainwater (100%) and Patternless (50%).
 

DrCarrotTail

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I'd agree with Neon. The close up photos of the eyes make him look like he is probably not eclipse. Baby geckos can have solid looking eyes that fade to normal eyes but that usually happen before they hit 10g. Enigma can do super funky things to coloration plus RW albino tends to hold on to color the least of the albino strains so their dark is more tan than brown. Because of these two things I would lean toward your baby not being albino.
 

Neon Aurora

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Doesn't look albino to me either. Definitely an enigma stripe, though. I'm tempted to say snow as well, but someone more experienced with enigmas and snows may want to chime in on that.
 

DrCarrotTail

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Eclipse often washes out colors and can make geckos look "snowy." Throwing enigma into the mix would make it hard to tell if snow is at play or not. Without knowing what the parents babies that are snow vs not snow tend to look like it can be super hard to tell.

The second baby doesn't really look albino at all to me either. Pretty babies tho!
 

Kmay571

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I knew the second one wasn't albino.she has solid black eyes that haven't faded out yet. These are the only two from that pairing. The mother never laid another egg. I am planning on keeping one of them. I just don't know to have the male to breed with a snow get rainwater and bold jungle or to keep the female and breed her to a snow typhoon (rainwater eclipse).
I like the unusual looking offspring.


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