So here are 3 more geckos :)

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Because I like input and it is always nice to double check, here are the other 3.


number 3

Abarant super hypo poss tangerine ? (pic not the greatest soon have a better phone to dabble with the camera... :p)

Baby:
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now:
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Number 4

Jungle super hypo baldy... ?

Baby:
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now:
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Number 5

Tangerine baldy hypo(poss super when dots fade) ?

Baby:
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now:
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There are two things going on in the names of leopard gecko morphs. Actual genes and descriptive adjectives. If we're talking about genes, your geckos are hypo tangerines that are het for tremper and possible het for eclipse. All five of them that I've seen so far fall under this description. I personally don't get into the descriptive adjective side of things except to callobvious stripes (like your middle picture above and one of the others in your last post) stripes if they have a stripe that goes down their back and tail or jungles if they have a full stripe on their back OR tail and an aberrant pattern on the other end. I think the other terms like aberrant, baldy, etc. are all just ways of describing the color and/or of your gecko and are easily visible by those who are looking at them. Plus, some of them are subject to change (like super hypo and baldy) as the gecko grows - i.e. you really can't tell if a gecko is a super hypo until its bands completely fade and you can't see any spots.
 
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DrCarrotTail said:
There are two things going on in the names of leopard gecko morphs. Actual genes and descriptive adjectives. If we're talking about genes, your geckos are hypo tangerines that are het for tremper and possible het for eclipse. All five of them that I've seen so far fall under this description. I personally don't get into the descriptive adjective side of things except to callobvious stripes (like your middle picture above and one of the others in your last post) stripes if they have a stripe that goes down their back and tail or jungles if they have a full stripe on their back OR tail and an aberrant pattern on the other end. I think the other terms like aberrant, baldy, etc. are all just ways of describing the color and/or of your gecko and are easily visible by those who are looking at them. Plus, some of them are subject to change (like super hypo and baldy) as the gecko grows - i.e. you really can't tell if a gecko is a super hypo until its bands completely fade and you can't see any spots.
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I see, geneticly (recessives,co-doms and dominant) I know how it works.
I just see so much polymorphism in the gecko's it is insane... And a lot of sources yelling different things, which makes things confusing as hell.

Things that confuse me a lot to are all the "random" names thrown around like last week I saw an albino hatchling being called "lavender, pastel, something something something" while all I saw was an albino .... :/

That is why I kinda turn to here to get other peoples view on what the heck hatched....

So far All hatched are : tangerine hypo het tremper ph eclipse
which basically is all what is going on there geneticly ? the jungle, abarant, baldy, carrot tail, super hypo, all are description within the genetics ? (aka not genetic... ?)
 
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I was assuming that in your labels, you were just naming the visual components and not including the hets. In general I would agree, except I'd call the second one a stripe rather than a jungle, since it has such a nice even stripe. "Tangerine" is a bit tricky these days. In the past, anything that was a slightly oranger shade of yellow was called tangerine, and that may still hold true, but there are so many lines of really bright orange, that some of the yellower versions are more marginal. I agree that the morph names have kind of gotten out of hand. I felt the descriptive terms you were using were pretty tried and true.

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acpart said:
I was assuming that in your labels, you were just naming the visual components and not including the hets. In general I would agree, except I'd call the second one a stripe rather than a jungle, since it has such a nice even stripe. "Tangerine" is a bit tricky these days. In the past, anything that was a slightly oranger shade of yellow was called tangerine, and that may still hold true, but there are so many lines of really bright orange, that some of the yellower versions are more marginal. I agree that the morph names have kind of gotten out of hand. I felt the descriptive terms you were using were pretty tried and true.

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Thanks, yea in my labels that i put on here are simply what is currently visual :) The hets are there, but not visual so only able to be determined by the breeding lines (Sunglow X Jungle super hypo ph raptor / patternless stripe ph raptor which makes all Het tremper, possible het eclipse).

Tangerine i would only label an animal if it has orange (not yellow), just there is so much random labelling currently going on.

So to get it straight:

#3
abarant super hypo

#4
Stripe( just stripe? ) super hypo baldy

#5
tangerine hypo poss baldy.



All het tremper, poss het eclipse.

lighting is mostly fixed in the reptile room now which will show more true colours.

ex: #5
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The names that are thrown around all have origins. I stay away from a lot of them because there's some controversy over whether they are lines - like stemming from a particular group some breeder had when they origionally coined the term - or an actual visual descriptor. Lavender, for example was an line of Tremper albinos that kept particularly high levels of purple coloration into adult hood and pastel is a new and controversial gene that Ron Tremper came out with last year. There are lots of other similar examples like, bandit, emerine, hyper xanthic, etc that are in the same boat and lots of other names people have used to coin their own lines like blood, electric, lemon, inferno and lots more. I find it easiest to just stick to the basics and elaborate for people in person or when I talk to them through emails or on the phone.
 
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DrCarrotTail said:
The names that are thrown around all have origins. I stay away from a lot of them because there's some controversy over whether they are lines - like stemming from a particular group some breeder had when they origionally coined the term - or an actual visual descriptor. Lavender, for example was an line of Tremper albinos that kept particularly high levels of purple coloration into adult hood and pastel is a new and controversial gene that Ron Tremper came out with last year. There are lots of other similar examples like, bandit, emerine, hyper xanthic, etc that are in the same boat and lots of other names people have used to coin their own lines like blood, electric, lemon, inferno and lots more. I find it easiest to just stick to the basics and elaborate for people in person or when I talk to them through emails or on the phone.
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I see interesting, so what I noticed myself to is that most of simply follow the example: instead of calling it Tangerine (soso line) they just yell out a name and call it soso tangerine or ... just a random name.... while it still all falls in the tangerine... just bred for a specific example..

I personally think people are just pasting names on stuff just to "create new things". Since there has not really been any new "genes" coming out that much have there ?
 
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