Identification Help Please

Nena

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Let me start of by saying I am completely new to this and am currently educating myself on morphs but I may be purchasing this gecko and the seller says she is a jungle is this correct?
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and this is her clutch mate the breeder is calling a Raptor but I thought they were supposed to have red eyes? So Im just really confused...

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acpart

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Yes, the first one is a jungle.
As to the second, you're right that Raptors have red eyes (or snake eyes). It is true, though, from what I've read, that some of these geckos can possibly lose the red-eye look. I've asked different people about this, wanting to know what, then, is the true characterization of an eclipse trait. The presence of red eyes at any point? The white nose? I really don't know. I recently bought a gecko that was advertised as a Raptor but turned out not to have red eyes. After contacting the person who sold the gecko in question to the seller, it seemed that the breeder thought there was a red eye trait initially. She's currently being bred to my het eclipse to see if she has the trait.
I would hesitate to call the one in your picture a Raptor because of the eyes and also because I really feel that Raptors should have no pattern or very little pattern, though many people don't hold with this.

Aliza
 

Nena

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Thank you for the info! I thought the red/brown pattern on the jungle girl was striking. So if the sister is not a raptor what would she be?
 

DrCarrotTail

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The first one looks like a jungle and like an albino of some sort.

The second one looks like it could be Tremper and is definitely a snake-eye Eclipse (the recessive genes that make up a raptor) but like Aliza said - they're supposed to be patternless to be a raptor so technically that one might not be considered one. If you wanted to get technical I'm pretty sure it would be called a Tremper albino eclipse.
 

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