Need help with breeding pairs!

discoverlight

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I finally got a male for my breeding. I have a few different females and I was wondering what pairing would get interesting babies? I don't know any recessive genes since theyre all rescues, but hopefully I'll get something interesting with some help.

Here is my male:
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And here are 3 potential mates:
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And helping me with the breeding process would be awesome. I know the first female is ovulating since she has that pink dot on her belly, but the others don't seem to be at the moment. It's going to be my first clutch so any help would be highly appreciated!
 

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The male is het for macksnow and my bell albino is het RAPTOR, if that helps. My SHTCTB and my 'normal' I'm not quite sure, but please help!
 

acpart

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I can't be totally helpful yet, because there are some things that have to be cleared up:
a. Mack snow is co-dominant. that means that either the gecko has 1 gene for Mack snow and is a snow, or it has no genes for Mack snow and it isn't a snow (or 2 genes making it a super snow). A gecko can't be het for Mack snow. It would be good to know whether your male is a snow or not

b. "Bell albino het raptor": Usually "raptor" refers to a tremper patternless stripe eclipse. If you are using the term correctly, then you're saying that your gecko has genes for both Bell and Tremper albino, which is a breeding no-no. Perhaps you mean that your Bell is het for Radar (Bell albino eclipse)?

c. you are perfectly within your rights to breed these geckos, but generally when you don't know the genetics of your breeders, you can't vouch for the genetics of the offspring. Reputable breeders will hesitate to buy these geckos and with the number of geckos on the market, selling them could be difficult.

That said, unless your male has unknown hets, breeding any of the females to him will result in normal looking geckos, het for albino in the case of female #1, with some potential for reduced spotting, striping or orange coloring from the super hypo tangerine and the bottom gecko respectively.

Aliza
 

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I might breed for personal use, as in keep the babies if I breed to the SHTCTB, or my normal. I have the money and time haha, not in college right now, wont be for about a year.

All the labels I used are what I got from the people I got them from, but they were probably misniformed too. Is selling normals with het for albino for like 20$ ok? I might breed with her if I can sell them, if not I'll just go personal use for the babies.
 

KDesautels08

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First off, let me start by saying, I mean no disrespect in saying this, but if you would like to breed leopard geckos, please do your research on it first. There is a lot more to breeding than putting together two animals and coming up with something "cool". Learn the basics of genetics, and start to research the different morphs of leopard geckos.

I will help you get started:

A "raptor" is a Tremper Eclipse. Therefore a Bell albino, CANNOT be het for Raptor. The Bell version of a Raptor is called a RADAR (Bell Eclipse). Also a Snow is a co-dominant gene, so a leopard gecko CANNOT be het Snow, it is either snow or it isnt.

To create a "cool" morph takes GENERATIONS of Leopard geckos, not just 1+1 . For example: your female albino, looks like she may be a snow also. So if you breed the male snow with her, you will likely get Snows that carry the albino gene but not visible (this is known as a het), it is when those offspring are bred together or to a parent or animal with the same genes, you may get something "visibly cool", in that case an albino snow. Like the female you have above. To create a "new morph" (for you), the offspring needs two copies of a gene, if you have an animal with 1 copy of a particular gene, it is het for that gene, unless it is a co-dominant/dominant.

For example: A bell + and Eclipse - Does NOT give you Radars. It will give you a Normal that is het for both Bell and Eclipse. It is when you take the Normal het for Bell/Eclipse and breed it to a bell you will likely get bells het for eclipse. THEN when you breed the Bells het for Eclipse's together, you MIGHT get a radar. It takes a while to make "cool/New" morphs.

*** ALSO DO NOT BREED THE DIFFERENT ALBINO STRAINS TOGETHER

Hope this helps
 

discoverlight

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Since I posted this a while back I've learned basic genetics and the discomfort and negligence of breeding an albino to an albino

I have adopted these geckos out to nice homes since, and am saving up to buy some high end white and yellows to start a morph project of my own sometime in the future, thanks for the concern though! :)
 

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