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sgislas

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Hi all!

I just paired my two geckos (Maximus and Satine) and they fought A LOT the first few days. They now seem to get a long. How do I know that they've mated?

Thanks!
 

fallen_angel

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They fought a lot?? Fighting isn't very good, are you sure they are not both males? Usually a male and female don't fight, but I don't know.. ? I would seperate them right away, fighting is never good.. Do you have some pics of them?

To answer your question, though, you cannot be sure that they've mated unless you actually witness the mating, or it's been so long that the female starts laying eggs. :) However, you can look for mating behavior, which can include any or all of the following:

tail vibrating - the end of the male's tail vibrates so fast that it makes a really loud buzzing noise if it's up against something

vent licking - after breeding, the male will lick his vent area and hemipene clean. The female may also lick herself

stalking - the male stalks the female for awhile sometimes before breeding


But once again, the fighting isn't good by any means. Just beacuse they don't seem to fight anymore, you cannot watch them all of the time, and they need to be seperated so that one doesn't get severely injured.

When they were fighting, were both of them vibrating their tails at eachother? That is one indication that they are both males.. Although, I do not think two males would last a few days living together, so I am thinking that's not the case..
 
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mcvancleave

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fighting is bad, a female will fight back if she is not ready. i do have 1 female that seems never to be ready to mate, he bites her to get ready and she bites back and runs. when that happens i remove here from tank and add her the next day, it normally takes 2 to 3 introductions and she will not resist.
 

Mel&Keith

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If your female was not receptive it could be that she's not ovulating. Always check to make sure you see follicles before you try to introduce them.
 

MSMD

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Mel&Keith said:
If your female was not receptive it could be that she's not ovulating. Always check to make sure you see follicles before you try to introduce them.

Like Mel said, if the female is not ovulating, she may not be receptive to the male. I've had a couple of first-time females that were actually ovulating, even, and were quite hostile at the introduction of the male. Sometimes the females just don't like that particular male, and you end up having to introduce a different male. Unfortunately, they really don't care what our breeding plans are! ;)
 
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sgislas

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How do I know if she is ovulating?

Thanks for all the replies!
 

fallen_angel

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You will be able to see small white blobs (called follicles) through her belly. The best way to do this is to put your leo into a see-through container, and then hold her above your head to look at her belly from underneath :)
 

GeckoGathering

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FIGHTING MALES?

Have you witnessed two males fight? It's a lock up bite-a- thon.....nothing like a female telling him off fight....my opinion, they never mated. Take care. / HJ
 

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