is 24 hours too long to be sweating?

TigressSnow

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it is a clutch mate to an egg hatched 3 days ago, it started sweating around 10am and no progress. it has also deflated. is something wrong, weak hatchling? deformity? or am i just a worry wort and its just resting? thanks!
 

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Update- they sadly passed away in the egg. I had candled in hopes to see movement like I usually did and saw nothing. I cut the egg as I wanted to document if there were deformities to keep track of and found a beautiful what I assumed would have been a blizzard (pure white with grey striping) with just a slightly deformed jaw with no egg teeth. I will be burying her tonight.
 

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IMO you shouldn't have cut the egg. I've heard of clutchmates taking up to 5 days to hatch after the first. It's always worth it to just wait it out.

I had an egg incubated at 84 hatch after 75 days. There's no way you could have known if that egg was going to hatch later or not, but cutting it open will kill it even if it was going to hatch.
 

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I personally never see movement before hatching.

I honestly don't know how it kills the baby, but they hatch when they are ready to and not before. Say that is wasn't going to hatch for another 5 days, it may have still had some developing to do. I'm sure if I cut open my egg incubated at 84 before it hatched on day 75, it would not have made it.

I'm not saying you killed the baby, of course. =P I'm wondering what the pairing was? If blizzards were not expected from the pairing, than it reminds me of something I read where a baby died inside the egg and when the breeder cut the egg open, the baby had no pigmentation and was not properly developed.

Most breeders have told me not to cut eggs, so I never have and probably never will. If the egg was molding or stank, it would be a different story, but there is always a chance no matter what the egg looks like.

Picture, maybe? Only if you're comfortable posting one. I know it is a bit gruesome, but the documentation is nice for unexpected outcomes.

If the baby did die of natural causes in the egg, than you will probably want to watch others from the same pairing carefully and retire the parents if there are more problems.
 
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TigressSnow

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i didnt take a photo simply because i was heartbroken, this is my first loss of my first ever season. yes the female was bell het blizzard eclipse and my beauty Ace is an eclipse blizzard het bell. i did take note that the eyes had no pigment at all, though maybe it was premature. i appreciate the answer and i apologize i took it as you saying i had accidentally killed the baby, i love my animals and a loss is hard (though i do know its inevitable, so i was a little prepared) i buried the baby in a baggie until i get to my moms home (i live in an apartment) for a proper burial. i have found a google photo that best resembles the baby and it doesnt make sense. i looked up a blizzard baby and theyre pure white, this baby had darker grey bands and blotches. the photo online was labeled a mack snow bell- images.jpg Mack_snow_tremper.jpg how do you get that out of them?!
ahem. anyways, i actually have eggs hopping out of their divits in the incubator. and i know its them (or earthquakes? though i live in southern ontario so not likely) as the incubator is on the floor in a dark cool corner.
that is indeed why i cut the egg, to monitor for deformities but you are right i should have waited until it stunk.
the baby still had the full yolksack attached and was bone thin at the curve they grow at, a slight deformity of the jaw and i didnt feel an egg tooth.
thanks so much for your responses, im feeling better today. still sad, but i did a little memorial on its sisters tub.
 

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I understand why you didn't want to take a picture. That sort of thing is hard. I think I may be about to go through something similar, as I have an egg whose clutchmate has already hatched and is showing no signs of hatching. But we will see.

That's interesting that your eggs are jumping from their holes. I've never even seen movement before.

I should apologize myself for being a little blunt with my wording. I've dealt with a lot of animals in my short life (I live on a ranch), so I suppose I'm more used to dealing with death than the average person.

Hard to say what the baby was. If it didn't develop correctly, its colors might be different also.

Good luck with the rest of your eggs. =)
 

TigressSnow

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I'm sorry you're about to goth rough the same. I just got to see what the norm was as a different females clutch hatched 2 days apart from each other. I found it odd too as I never jolt the incubator and they're decent divets. I have gone through death a little, not as much as living on a ranch though. Just the family cat or gerbil. Within the first few months of owning reptiles I lost a gecko to impaction(sand is not used in my house for anyone but my 2 occelated skinks) and lost 2 dragons (Chinese and mountain horned) to unknown causes as they were both wild caught. Thank you, and best of luck to you :)
 
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