New patternless male tokay, tokay pics, setups and some new not-leos :P(pic heavy)

Here are some pics of my new olive patternless male tokay; Muerto. Now, these are just point and shoots, and he's not fired up, he's a particularly aggro tokay and I didn't want to stress him too much since he's only been here a few days.







This is my tokay setup. These first ones are Zilla Acrylic atriums(LOVE these things). The top two are heated with zoomed 80watt nocturnal bulbs(red) and the bottom four each have a strip of 4in flexwatt attached to the back with foil tape about half way up and run on a dimmer switch, giving each unit an ambient temp of about 85F with a 95F hot spot. Each cage has cocofiber as a substrate, a roach dish(my tokays eat dubia and lateralis roaches exclusively) a water dish, a calcium dish, some live plants(pothos, snake plants, and spider plants) fake plants, branches(from the yard, baked and bleached) and a 12 in section of 2in PVC hide wrapped in a fake vine suspended on suction cupped hooks near the heat source. The bottom of the roach dish is also hollowed out, allowing the gecko to choose a cooler, moister ground hide if they want to(most don't they usually hangout in an upper corner of the cage). Adults are fed every other day, 10-20 roaches per feeding, gutloaded. The cages have hinged front doors with a screen top and a screen section at the bottom of the front, giving good airflow yet retaining humidity well for several hours after being misted. Each gecko is kept individually, with a male who has been heard calling being introduced to a female's cage for a 30 day period, or until I witness copulation, whichever comes first.





I also keep a permanently bonded 1.2 group in a large(3ftX1ftX4ft) wooden display cage made from a converted glass fronted book case planted with live plants and fake plants. Demon is a VERY big male and is very gentle with his girls, Ying and Yang(but not with me, lol). He is also a very good father.







Eggs incubating in-cage. (excuse the crappy tape job, I did it while running late for work AND dodging Demon's "angry daddy" routine :main_laugh: )



Demon on guard duty





And some females..

Hitari hangin out(she's a tame female)



Natiri (also tame)



And finally, this is Noche and Cleo, my new pair of "NightStalker" bent toed geckos, Cyrtodacytlus intermedius. They're imports, and a bit on the thin side, but they are eating and have had fecals and have been dewormed. I'm really diggin these guys, they're very laid back geckos, and something different.

Noche



Cleo









And here they are in their quarantine setup. It's about the size of a 20 gal tank, cocofiber substrate, hides(they are prefer having not to share) water dish, roach dish, calcium dish, branches(baked and bleached), fake plants and a single screen window to help keep humidity high(these guys need it 70-100%). Temps are room temps, low-mid 70s. No heat source or light. They're feeding well on roaches and apple snails(the aquatic kind, these guys LOVE snails, and the high calcium is good for the females). Once they are through quarantine(60 days) I will be moving them into a large exoterra cage planted with live plants and cork bark on the walls. These geckos are semi-arboreal, and enjoy the opportunity to climb, but lack toe pads so don't handle slippery surfaces well.



Hope you guys enjoyed!

Beautiful geckos and great set-ups!

Very nice

nice tokays and i love the nightstalkers!

Very nice there. I would love to get into Tokays as their colors are beautiful but the notion of it trying to rip my finger off keeps me an observer. I guess if you get cb babies the demons may cooperate though and settle down.

wow...the top one looked like the one I saw in my very own country...Malaysia.Or is it the "Demon Guard" one...cant rlly remember cuz I was on the night walk and couldnt see rlly well

Thanks everyone!

Keith N said:

Very nice there. I would love to get into Tokays as their colors are beautiful but the notion of it trying to rip my finger off keeps me an observer. I guess if you get cb babies the demons may cooperate though and settle down.

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Babies come out of the egg just like adults, ready and willing to defend themselves. However, cb animals are always easier to tame than wcs. With tokays, it's all about trust. You need to prove to the animal that you mean it no harm, they're smart lizards, and once they realize you're not necessarily going to try to eat them, they slow down and start to think things through. I have 3 adult females, all wcs, who are easier to handle than some of my leopard geckos. It took quite a while to get them this way, tokays have a lot of predators and are suspicious of everything, but once I earned their trust they became very friendly. Now I can just reach in and pick them up. I'm in the process of taming the remainder of my adults, so far all but one are responding well(Muerto is the only exception, and he's the newest one so I expect it to take some time). If you want a tame tokay, I definately recommend starting with cb babies, for one cb animals haven't experienced the trauma of being captured, thrown in a box, and sent half way across the world, and also baby bites hurt a lot less, so you're less likely to respond to minor defensive bites and freak the animal out. Taming a tokay takes nerves, but once the gecko trusts you, they actually seem to enjoy hanging with you. Just take things slow, don't give up, and never give the animal a reason to stop trusting you(i.e. no grabbing).

T-ReXx said:

Here are some pics of my new olive patternless male tokay; Muerto. Now, these are just point and shoots, and he's not fired up, he's a particularly aggro tokay and I didn't want to stress him too much since he's only been here a few days.

This is my tokay setup. These first ones are Zilla Acrylic atriums(LOVE these things). The top two are heated with zoomed 80watt nocturnal bulbs(red) and the bottom four each have a strip of 4in flexwatt attached to the back with foil tape about half way up and run on a dimmer switch, giving each unit an ambient temp of about 85F with a 95F hot spot. Each cage has cocofiber as a substrate, a roach dish(my tokays eat dubia and lateralis roaches exclusively) a water dish, a calcium dish, some live plants(pothos, snake plants, and spider plants) fake plants, branches(from the yard, baked and bleached) and a 12 in section of 2in PVC hide wrapped in a fake vine suspended on suction cupped hooks near the heat source. The bottom of the roach dish is also hollowed out, allowing the gecko to choose a cooler, moister ground hide if they want to(most don't they usually hangout in an upper corner of the cage). Adults are fed every other day, 10-20 roaches per feeding, gutloaded. The cages have hinged front doors with a screen top and a screen section at the bottom of the front, giving good airflow yet retaining humidity well for several hours after being misted. Each gecko is kept individually, with a male who has been heard calling being introduced to a female's cage for a 30 day period, or until I witness copulation, whichever comes first.

I also keep a permanently bonded 1.2 group in a large(3ftX1ftX4ft) wooden display cage made from a converted glass fronted book case planted with live plants and fake plants. Demon is a VERY big male and is very gentle with his girls, Ying and Yang(but not with me, lol). He is also a very good father.

Eggs incubating in-cage. (excuse the crappy tape job, I did it while running late for work AND dodging Demon's "angry daddy" routine :main_laugh: )

Demon on guard duty

And some females..

Hitari hangin out(she's a tame female)

Natiri (also tame)

And finally, this is Noche and Cleo, my new pair of "NightStalker" bent toed geckos, Cyrtodacytlus intermedius. They're imports, and a bit on the thin side, but they are eating and have had fecals and have been dewormed. I'm really diggin these guys, they're very laid back geckos, and something different.

Noche

Cleo

And here they are in their quarantine setup. It's about the size of a 20 gal tank, cocofiber substrate, hides(they are prefer having not to share) water dish, roach dish, calcium dish, branches(baked and bleached), fake plants and a single screen window to help keep humidity high(these guys need it 70-100%). Temps are room temps, low-mid 70s. No heat source or light. They're feeding well on roaches and apple snails(the aquatic kind, these guys LOVE snails, and the high calcium is good for the females). Once they are through quarantine(60 days) I will be moving them into a large exoterra cage planted with live plants and cork bark on the walls. These geckos are semi-arboreal, and enjoy the opportunity to climb, but lack toe pads so don't handle slippery surfaces well.

Hope you guys enjoyed!

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Demon lives with his "kids"?

thegeckoguy23 said:

Demon lives with his "kids"?

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Demon lives with two adult females. Tokays are egg gluers, and you can't always remove the eggs, in cases where they are glued to the wall or something else permanent in the cage. In these cases, I cap the eggs with a delicup with a bit of cocofiber or moss in it and a few holes punched so that I can find the hatchlings when they hatch and to protect the eggs(females will sometimes eat the eggs of other females). Male tokays guard the eggs and any babies that hatch out for several weeks afterwards, they are very good parents.

O thats really neat

Hi,

nice Tokays you have.

i'm looking for some Tokay morphs to setup a breeding line.

What kind of cages are those with the 80watt heat lamps on it and where can i buy them and what are the dimensions? Sorry for all the questions just got a new tokay just love him trying to get the best for him him hes in a nice enclosure now i just wanna get a bigger one.