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While I'm more of a big dog person than a little dog person, it annoys me to no end when people use this arguement to defend big dogs. I used to foster dogs and since my medium to large sized dog only likes little dogs that was what I had to foster. Not a one of them was aggressive. Not one ever bit me. They were all sweet and loving. In fact, I was surprised at how much I enjoyed little dogs. You don't want your dogs to have their "media image" and be labeled.....don't do it to the little dogs. And also, if you're allowed to irratinally be afraid of little dogs, you can't be insulted when people are irrationally afraid of your dog.

I am NOT afraid of little dogs for any irrational reason. I HAVE BEEN BITTEN MULTIPLE TIMES BY LITTLE DOGS WHEN I WAS MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS.

NEVER HAVE I BEEN BITTEN BY A BIG DOG!

That is absolutely NOT and irrational fear.

The only reason dog bites from pits and other big dogs are reported is because they cause the most damage. I greatly dislike little dogs because of the FACT that they bite more than big dogs.
 

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Lol Ive only been biten by little dogs aswell. Im not afraid but im for sure wary of a fluffy white dog in a womens arms...
 

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That has nothing to do with your dogs breed. Training, socialization and sterilization could have easily prevented that aggression.
Many dogs were bred for "aggressive" reasons. Either bull baiting, hunting, etc. Many dogs were bred to do our dirty work. That does NOT mean theyre all hard wired for it. Pits are terriers, terriers main purpose were to rat. Yes they were also used to bull bait and to fight each other, but they werent born with those habits, they were taught those "skills" through being beat or faught. Pits being used to fight eachother is "new" if you want to get into the nitty gritty. Aggressions towards humans/other dogs are a learned behaviour. I am a firm believer in Nuture vs Nature.

Pits dont come out of the womb fighting...

I disagree people were fighting dogs for longer then most think, and my dog is well trained but a real pitbull is bred purely for dog aggression mixed with terriors only to add agility to the sport. Not to be blue or fance colored or anything else. But the did not breed people aggressive dogs because there were handlers in the ring with these dogs and that was not wanted.
 

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I disagree people were fighting dogs for longer then most think, and my dog is well trained but a real pitbull is bred purely for dog aggression mixed with terriors only to add agility to the sport. Not to be blue or fance colored or anything else. But the did not breed people aggressive dogs because there were handlers in the ring with these dogs and that was not wanted.
What's a "real pitbull"? A pit is a pit. Saying only "real" ones are bred "purely" for dog aggression is narrow-minded. Pits come from many different breeding lines, and some of them were never fighters. Or, if they did come from fighters, it was so far back that the instinct has often since been lost.

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What's a "real pitbull"? A pit is a pit. Saying only "real" ones are bred "purely" for dog aggression is narrow-minded. Pits come from many different breeding lines, and some of them were never fighters. Or, if they did come from fighters, it was so far back that the instinct has often since been lost.

~Maggot

A real pit is a working dog and is bred as such a american straffsire is on the other hand bred to look nice and eliminate the dog agression. But they are all nice dogs. The point I was making is breed that has evolved from the fighting dogs of the 18 hundreds to be dog aggressive will always jump when challanged. I also have a teady bear dog and the to are best of friends and my dog is social. But If a male dog gets aggresive with him it's on. And to most pit bull owners at least where I live don't consided the amstaff the same dogs. We is bred to go and one is bred to show.
 

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A real pit is a working dog and is bred as such a american straffsire is on the other hand bred to look nice and eliminate the dog agression. But they are all nice dogs. The point I was making is breed that has evolved from the fighting dogs of the 18 hundreds to be dog aggressive will always jump when challanged. I also have a teady bear dog and the to are best of friends and my dog is social. But If a male dog gets aggresive with him it's on. And to most pit bull owners at least where I live don't consided the amstaff the same dogs. We is bred to go and one is bred to show.
You mean Staffordshire? They are considered pit bulls, regardless of their breeding particulars. And no, they aren't all dog aggressive when challenged. I had a pit bull, and my one dog - a Basset - attacked her, and she never fought back. He didn't have a scratch, but she needed stitches. I've heard many pit bull owners say that their dog won't fight. The aggression just isn't in them, but that doesn't make them less of a pit bull. Even a Border Collie, which has been hardcore bred to be a herder, if it didn't have the herding instinct (though I can't imagine that happening, since it's an extremely strong instinct), it'd still be just as much of a Border Collie.

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You mean Staffordshire? They are considered pit bulls, regardless of their breeding particulars. And no, they aren't all dog aggressive when challenged. I had a pit bull, and my one dog - a Basset - attacked her, and she never fought back. He didn't have a scratch, but she needed stitches. I've heard many pit bull owners say that their dog won't fight. The aggression just isn't in them, but that doesn't make them less of a pit bull. Even a Border Collie, which has been hardcore bred to be a herder, if it didn't have the herding instinct (though I can't imagine that happening, since it's an extremely strong instinct), it'd still be just as much of a Border Collie.

~Maggot

Again the amstaff an pitbull were once the same dog but thae akc would not reconize a breed witha name relating to fighting. And then pitbulls were the working dog and staffs the show. Its like saying a six cylinder camaro is the same as a race car. And they are not taught to fight they were bred to be aggressive. Maybe your dog is an amstaff
 

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I am NOT afraid of little dogs for any irrational reason. I HAVE BEEN BITTEN MULTIPLE TIMES BY LITTLE DOGS WHEN I WAS MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS.

NEVER HAVE I BEEN BITTEN BY A BIG DOG!

That is absolutely NOT and irrational fear.

The only reason dog bites from pits and other big dogs are reported is because they cause the most damage. I greatly dislike little dogs because of the FACT that they bite more than big dogs.

It's not a fact that little dogs bite more. It's a fact that dogs that are not socialized well, or that are feeling frightened or anxious bite more. It has nothing to do with size. I've never been bitten by a little dog. I've been living with dogs for almost 44 years, and working with and volunteering with dogs for almost 20 years. Again, I've never been bitten by a little dog. I believe that you have, and to you you were minding your own business. But dogs don't ever bite for no reason. In the dogs mind, there was a reason. Btw, the only dog I know personally that bit (actually attacked) was a large dog. Quite a large dog, actually.

I love all size dogs.
 

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Again the amstaff an pitbull were once the same dog but thae akc would not reconize a breed witha name relating to fighting. And then pitbulls were the working dog and staffs the show. Its like saying a six cylinder camaro is the same as a race car. And they are not taught to fight they were bred to be aggressive. Maybe your dog is an amstaff
...You're aware that "pit bull" is a group of breeds, not a breed, right? I think you missed that. But since you don't know what a Staffordshire is and instead made up a word, that doesn't surprise me.

Is this enough of a pit bull for you? :main_rolleyes:

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It's not a fact that little dogs bite more. It's a fact that dogs that are not socialized well, or that are feeling frightened or anxious bite more. It has nothing to do with size. I've never been bitten by a little dog. I've been living with dogs for almost 44 years, and working with and volunteering with dogs for almost 20 years. Again, I've never been bitten by a little dog. I believe that you have, and to you you were minding your own business. But dogs don't ever bite for no reason. In the dogs mind, there was a reason. Btw, the only dog I know personally that bit (actually attacked) was a large dog. Quite a large dog, actually.

I love all size dogs.
You could argue, though, that a small dog is more likely to feel anxious or frightened.

~Maggot
 

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You could argue, though, that a small dog is more likely to feel anxious or frightened.

~Maggot

Now that is very true. And you can't blame them either. That's why owners of small dogs need to be so vigilant about socializing them a lot when young. If socialized and taken on walks, etc. they can be great dogs!
 

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Now that is very true. And you can't blame them either. That's why owners of small dogs need to be so vigilant about socializing them a lot when young. If socialized and taken on walks, etc. they can be great dogs!
I don't have extensive experience with small dogs, as I've always had large or medium sized ones. I had a Shiba Inu, but they're...not typical little dogs. X)

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Now that is very true. And you can't blame them either. That's why owners of small dogs need to be so vigilant about socializing them a lot when young. If socialized and taken on walks, etc. they can be great dogs!

I knew two separate people with two different dogs. Both were 3-4 month old puppies, one a chihuahua and the other a chihuahua mix. At such a young age, both growled, bared their teeth and bit people and me on more than one occasion... so I question whether that has anything to do with socialization.
 

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I knew two separate people with two different dogs. Both were 3-4 month old puppies, one a chihuahua and the other a chihuahua mix. At such a young age, both growled, bared their teeth and bit people and me on more than one occasion... so I question whether that has anything to do with socialization.
Well the American Temperament Testing Society gave the Chihuahua a passing rate of only 68.3%, which is pretty low. I've never known any personally I don't think, though.

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...You're aware that "pit bull" is a group of breeds, not a breed, right? I think you missed that. But since you don't know what a Staffordshire is and instead made up a word, that doesn't surprise me.

Is this enough of a pit bull for you? :main_rolleyes:

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You could argue, though, that a small dog is more likely to feel anxious or frightened.

~Maggot

Well sorry I am not much on spelling but I have owned apbt dogs longer then you have been alive, but I don't like where this is going I was stating my opinion and you are personally attacking me. Sorry if I didn't grow up in the best of area's and wasn't provided a great education. This is mine
 
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Well the American Temperament Testing Society gave the Chihuahua a passing rate of only 68.3%, which is pretty low. I've never known any personally I don't think, though.

~Maggot
When I was fostering dogs I fostered two chihuahuas. Not at that the same time, separate times. Having been a "big dog person" all my life I always thought I didn't like little dogs, chihuahua's in particular. I'll tell you, I bawled my eyes out when both of those little chi's got adopted. They may not like everyone they meet like a lot of dogs do, but when they bond they bond stronger than any other dog. There was just something about a dog that fiercely loves you when you know the trust didn't come easily and isn't always handed out freely. I don't know how else to explain my surprise attachment to those two any better than that.

Neither of those dogs were biters either, btw. One of the two was nervous around children and if pushed may have in that situation. But neither one ever bit anyone. The one, in fact, was such a polite dog she would look at you for permission before jumping up on furniture.
 
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When I was fostering dogs I fostered two chihuahuas. Not at that the same time, separate times. Having been a "big dog person" all my life I always thought I didn't like little dogs, chihuahua's in particular. I'll tell you, I bawled my eyes out when both of those little chi's got adopted. They may not like everyone they meet like a lot of dogs do, but when they bond they bond stronger than any other dog. There was just something about a dog that fiercely loves you when you know the trust didn't come easily and isn't always handed out freely. I don't know how else to explain my surprise attachment to those two any better than that.

Neither of those dogs were biters either, btw. One of the two was nervous around children and if pushed may have in that situation. But neither one ever bit anyone. The one, in fact, was such a polite dog she would look at you for permission before jumping up on furniture.
I don't think you can judge any breed based on only two dogs you happened to know, whether they were biters or lovers or whatever. That's why I get irritated when people say they don't like some breed because they had a bad experience once. Yeah...so? (This goes for bpgirl as well.)

~Maggot
 

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I don't think you can judge any breed based on only two dogs you happened to know, whether they were biters or lovers or whatever. That's why I get irritated when people say they don't like some breed because they had a bad experience once. Yeah...so? (This goes for bpgirl as well.)

~Maggot
I'm not judging the breed based on two dogs. I've worked with dogs for many, many years. These are the only two chi's I actually fostered in my home however. And I agree with you. That's my point. You can't stereotype little dogs, and then get angry when others stereotype big dogs.

And I fostered many little dogs, only two chi's though.
 
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I don't think you can judge any breed based on only two dogs you happened to know, whether they were biters or lovers or whatever. That's why I get irritated when people say they don't like some breed because they had a bad experience once. Yeah...so? (This goes for bpgirl as well.)

~Maggot

It's based on multiple experiences, not just one. I have my opinions and you have yours. Let's not keep singling people out.

I think this thread is going to a pointless place. There is no reason to keep commenting about what is a pit and what isn't and what dogs bite and what dogs don't.
 

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