I really need help training this crazy puppy! Please help me!?

Embrace Calamity · Nov 26, 2012

Kylerbassman said:
I almost think people should own a big dog first as in most cases it requires you to train correctly, but a lot of people just use excuses for there little dogs bad behavior. I know at least 5 people who are like this, and I have tried again and again to explain to them that your dog being hyper/stressed means they are not happy and not getting the correct stimulation. Some dogs need a "job" or work to feel that anxiety go away, and if we are not pushing them to be like that, nobody is happy.

I've seen this happen repeatedly as well. I had a friend who had a mini dachsund and something else (I forget what), and they were the rudest dogs I'd ever met plus weren't even slightly potty trained. I remember once they brought McDonald's home and the one dog jumped up on the person and ripped the bag right out of their hand and the food went everywhere. I was shocked. My dogs would never even dare do something like that, but they were just like, "Oh, haha! How cute!" I hated going over there.

Two of my dogs are very high-anxiety, and they get calming supplements plus as much stimulation as I can give. When the weather was nicer, I even did a little work with them on a homemade redneck agility course. If I ignored them most of the time, I can't imagine what they'd be like.

OP, you might care to try a little of this: Breeder's Formula
Certainly can't hurt your dog any. My dogs do well on it.

katie_ said:
When we walk,we walk.
My dogs outweigh me, so there is NO pulling or sniffing allowed.
Thank god he didnt inherit the hound call. He has a normal bark but is a quiet dog
The yorkie however...yap machine

BAH. I hate the hound call. >_O One reason I'm not a huge hound person. Beagle calls are the worst sounds in the world.

~Maggot

katie_ · Nov 26, 2012

Embrace Calamity said:
I've seen this happen repeatedly as well. I had a friend who had a mini dachsund and something else (I forget what), and they were the rudest dogs I'd ever met plus weren't even slightly potty trained. I remember once they brought McDonald's home and the one dog jumped up on the person and ripped the bag right out of their hand and the food went everywhere. I was shocked. My dogs would never even dare do something like that, but they were just like, "Oh, haha! How cute!" I hated going over there.

Two of my dogs are very high-anxiety, and they get calming supplements plus as much stimulation as I can give. When the weather was nicer, I even did a little work with them on a homemade redneck agility course. If I ignored them most of the time, I can't imagine what they'd be like.

OP, you might care to try a little of this: Breeder's Formula
Certainly can't hurt your dog any. My dogs do well on it.BAH. I hate the hound call. >_O One reason I'm not a huge hound person. Beagle calls are the worst sounds in the world.

~Maggot

Beagles are terrible in general.
Thats one breed I will make a generalization about lol!

Embrace Calamity · Nov 26, 2012

katie_ said:
Beagles are terrible in general.
Thats one breed I will make a generalization about lol!

I personally really don't care for them either. I've met quite a few and have yet to meet one that I particularly care for, though I'm sure there are some out there that I'd like. Just really not my kind of dog. They remind me kind of the hound form of labs. Just kind of...derp.

~Maggot

katie_ · Nov 26, 2012

Embrace Calamity said:
I personally really don't care for them either. I've met quite a few and have yet to meet one that I particularly care for, though I'm sure there are some out there that I'd like. Just really not my kind of dog. They remind me kind of the hound form of labs. Just kind of...derp.

~Maggot

Working with them in clinic, theyre awful.
As are eskimos and a lot of shepherds.
Probably not their fault, its just a trend Ive noticed.

lisa127 · Nov 26, 2012

katie_ said:
Yes I have one small dog.
I also took a vet course in Uni (a world reknowned school) and work at a clinic. Ive been training dogs for 6 years. I have numerous credentials.
Dont base my education or knowledge on my age. Thats ignorant.

Any dog, small or large is able to hold its bladder for 8 hours at 6 months old unless there is a health problem. Saying little dogs take a year to house break is just plain wrong. They arent any "dumber" than a big dog, what makes it acceptable for them to "not get it". They have the ability, and they do become house broken at the same time as any other sized dog when trained properly (end of story.) Their anatomy is the same.

Little dogs that are carried that are dominate aggressive OFTEN have dominance issues by being held up high at that level, they DO feel dominate and BIGGER and often lash out. By holding them you are rewarding and helping them accomplish that bad behaviour. Some dogs that are held are truely scared and lash out for that reason. All dogs are different.

Rib poking and alpha roles arent always needed, but they have their place. I believe they are very important. I train my dogs based on their instints. Momma dog isnt going to use her words, she uses actions. One of my dogs NEEDED to be physically dominated. If this didnt happen, I believe he wouldnt be here. Thats what dogs understand.
We may have different training styles, but telling someone its okay that their little dog stills pees in the house at a year is just ridiculous. Thats unacceptable. I can dig out my books and site this scientific information if you still disagree.
Your personal experience doesnt count as fact.

First of all, I never said it was ok for the dog to pee in the house at a year old. I said don't trust them not to under a year old. In other words, supervise and confine when you can't. That's not the same as saying it's ok. Show me a toy breed dog that is 6 months old and pottytrained and I"ll say "great. but that dog still will not be trusted unsupervised in my house until at least a year old." Where does that say it's ok to pee in the house??

As for basing your knowledge on your age, I wasn't. I was pointing out to you that I myself am far from inexperienced with dogs. I don't appreciate being called ignorant nor do I appreciate being called "this person". I do have a name.

Most aggression in dogs stems from fear. People need to get over the thinking that everything their dog does is the dog trying to be "alpha". Dogs need to be taught how to behave in our human world with firmness and consistentsy simply because without being taught they do not know how to behave in our world. I often wish we can take the word alpha totally out of our vocabulary when it comes to dogs.

Kylerbassman · Nov 26, 2012

Most those breeds just need intense training. I'm not a huge fan of Shepards but I have met some really nice dogs. It's just a shame because most of what we see is because of what people weren't willing to do. It's not the breeds fault, just uneducated owners.

Embrace Calamity · Nov 26, 2012

Kylerbassman said:
Most those breeds just need intense training. I'm not a huge fan of Shepards but I have met some really nice dogs. It's just a shame because most of what we see is because of what people weren't willing to do. It's not the breeds fault, just uneducated owners.

I don't think she was talking about their training - or at least I wasn't. I've met some very well-trained Beagles. We owned two, and they were well-trained. They were well-behaved and nice dogs, but just kind of...derp. Not particularly affectionate or intelligent, primarily just concerned with food and chasing rabbits - which I get is their instinct. I'm more into very intelligent, loveable, cuddly lap dogs (of any size).

~Maggot

Kylerbassman · Nov 26, 2012

I agree with the fear thing. Most aggression is fear disguised, but there are times when you need to show your dog who is boss. That doesn't mean grabbing the neck or jabbing them constantly but it does mean that your correction needs to be at the same level as the bad reaction. With a small dog, I would agree you don't have to be overpowering because they aren't biting or acting out due to rage most the time its a protection thing so increasing socialization and praising them when they aren't being bad will help, along with redirecting them when they get into that mode. I have however had instances with bigger dogs who are fighting to kill. In these instances you need correct that mentality imediately.

Kylerbassman · Nov 26, 2012

Embrace Calamity said:
I don't think she was talking about their training - or at least I wasn't. I've met some very well-trained Beagles. We owned two, and they were well-trained. They were well-behaved and nice dogs, but just kind of...derp. Not particularly affectionate or intelligent, primarily just concerned with food and chasing rabbits - which I get is their instinct. I'm more into very intelligent, loveable, cuddly lap dogs (of any size).

~Maggot

I got ya. I just like to stick up for breeds because owning a Pitt bull, my dogs were constantly discriminated against (which I know wasn't your intent). I just wish people would actually research the breed they want before purchasing. It would save a lot of dogs. Any breed can be good, but not when you have people who refuse to do what's needed to make them a good dog

katie_ · Nov 26, 2012

lisa127 said:
First of all, I never said it was ok for the dog to pee in the house at a year old. I said don't trust them not to under a year old. In other words, supervise and confine when you can't. That's not the same as saying it's ok. Show me a toy breed dog that is 6 months old and pottytrained and I"ll say "great. but that dog still will not be trusted unsupervised in my house until at least a year old." Where does that say it's ok to pee in the house??

As for basing your knowledge on your age, I wasn't. I was pointing out to you that I myself am far from inexperienced with dogs. I don't appreciate being called ignorant nor do I appreciate being called "this person". I do have a name.

Most aggression in dogs stems from fear. People need to get over the thinking that everything their dog does is the dog trying to be "alpha". Dogs need to be taught how to behave in our human world with firmness and consistentsy simply because without being taught they do not know how to behave in our world. I often wish we can take the word alpha totally out of our vocabulary when it comes to dogs.

Thats how your posts came across.
We are not mind readers, without an explanation,we can only take your comments at face value.

SOME agression stems from fear, SOME aggression stems from dominance issues. This dog is jumping at its owners face. It is not fearful of her, it is being a little brat.

katie_ · Nov 26, 2012

Kylerbassman said:
Most those breeds just need intense training. I'm not a huge fan of Shepards but I have met some really nice dogs. It's just a shame because most of what we see is because of what people weren't willing to do. It's not the breeds fault, just uneducated owners.

I have a beagle x shepherd x lab.
Hes a wonderful dog.

Many of his fellow breeds are not given what they need, and act out. Hense the bad rap.
I have met both terrible and wonderful dogs in every breed, their are just a few repeat offenders in my neighbour. Owners fault completely.

Embrace Calamity · Nov 26, 2012

Kylerbassman said:
I got ya. I just like to stick up for breeds because owning a Pitt bull, my dogs were constantly discriminated against (which I know wasn't your intent). I just wish people would actually research the breed they want before purchasing. It would save a lot of dogs. Any breed can be good, but not when you have people who refuse to do what's needed to make them a good dog

Well, pits are actually one of those dogs I was talking about. Definitely intelligent, loveable lapdogs.

But I agree with you about researching, especially with little dogs. They're not always the easiest to care for, and they might be lyk so ttly kewt, but that doesn't mean they'll be a good fit.

katie_ said:
I have a beagle x shepherd x lab.
Hes a wonderful dog.

Many of his fellow breeds are not given what they need, and act out. Hense the bad rap.
I have met both terrible and wonderful dogs in every breed, their are just a few repeat offenders in my neighbour. Owners fault completely.

I have a lab mix, even though I'm really not a fan of labs. She's a sweet, wonderful dog and I love her, but I still wouldn't choose a lab if I had other breeds to choose from (she was dumped on the road and I found her).

~Maggot

katie_ · Nov 26, 2012

Embrace Calamity said:
Well, pits are actually one of those dogs I was talking about. Definitely intelligent, loveable lapdogs. But I agree with you about researching, especially with little dogs. They're not always the easiest to care for, and they might be lyk so ttly kewt, but that doesn't mean they'll be a good fit. I have a lab mix, even though I'm really not a fan of labs. She's a sweet, wonderful dog and I love her, but I still wouldn't choose a lab if I had other breeds to choose from (she was dumped on the road and I found her).

~Maggot

I wouldnt pick any three of the breeds my dog is mixed with ever on purpose. Lol. Hes still my best buddy. I delivered his litter, and took him in when the owners gave up. Bad situation, puppies were drinking water out of a toilet and were never given kibble, just moms milk. He had severe eating problems because of this, but we've resolved them. "Derp" is a great word to describe him. He'll wake up and see his reflection in a window and wig out. Total idiot

xxLizzyxx · Nov 26, 2012

Thank you so much for all of your replies. Especially you Katie, you helped me out so much!

Fatal_S said:
Are you telling us this puppy is left locked alone in the kitchen for over 20 hours of every day? And you want to know why it's having issues? Did you miss the meaning of social animal???

Give the dog to someone who can actually be part of it's pack, and get a pet rock. Dog's are not animals you only spend a couple hours with each day. Neither are kids, don't have those either. They are your family, and should be with you every possible moment of the day.

Reading that "two hours a day" and "whole kitchen to himself" thing has me really cheesed off. That poor, poor puppy

He's not locked up for 20 hours a day. :main_thumbsdown: I play fetch and tug-a-war with him for 2 hours, sometimes more (He gets bored easily..). I walk him for 2-3 hours every day. I spend time training him for 1-2 hours every day. I have a busy schedule and I DO spend every possible moment I can with him! Lastly.. he only has the kitchen or crate to himself when I'm not home. I don't trust him roaming my house when I am not home. He has already had several accidents on my carpet and I don't have the extra money to keep getting it cleaned. Lastly, he is anything but poor. He is truly loved and adored and I will do anything to make sure he is well-exercised, well-trained, and happy!

I will try to reply to others' posts later..

katie_ · Nov 26, 2012

xxLizzyxx said:
Thank you so much for all of your replies. Especially you Katie, you helped me out so much!

He's not locked up for 20 hours a day. :main_thumbsdown: I play fetch and tug-a-war with him for 2 hours, sometimes more (He gets bored easily..). I walk him for 2-3 hours every day. I spend time training him for 1-2 hours every day. I have a busy schedule and I DO spend every possible moment I can with him! Lastly.. he only has the kitchen or crate to himself when I'm not home. I don't trust him roaming my house when I am not home. He has already had several accidents on my carpet and I don't have the extra money to keep getting it cleaned. Lastly, he is anything but poor. He is truly loved and adored and I will do anything to make sure he is well-exercised, well-trained, and happy!

I will try to reply to others' posts later..

I understood thats not what you meant.
If you have any more specific problems with Jake, feel free to PM me and I can try to help you out a little better.
Your Jake sounds a lot like my Sully. Naughty little things.

Fatal_S · Nov 26, 2012

xxLizzyxx said:
Thank you so much for all of your replies. Especially you Katie, you helped me out so much!

He's not locked up for 20 hours a day. :main_thumbsdown: I play fetch and tug-a-war with him for 2 hours, sometimes more (He gets bored easily..). I walk him for 2-3 hours every day. I spend time training him for 1-2 hours every day. I have a busy schedule and I DO spend every possible moment I can with him! Lastly.. he only has the kitchen or crate to himself when I'm not home. I don't trust him roaming my house when I am not home. He has already had several accidents on my carpet and I don't have the extra money to keep getting it cleaned. Lastly, he is anything but poor. He is truly loved and adored and I will do anything to make sure he is well-exercised, well-trained, and happy!

I will try to reply to others' posts later..

I am so glad to hear this. The "play with him two hours a day" thing had me scared. I know people who do lock their dog up most of the day, and it's a terrible thing for a dog, and the dog will never be a happy housepet. Your OP had me a bit freaked and upset, but it seems like I read if different than you intended it. I apologize for the harsh post, but the image of a hyper puppy being locked away and left alone most of the day is a terrible thought.

It sounds like you're putting a lot of time and work into the dog, which is great. It seems that others here have more experience with agression, pottytraining, etc, so I won't say much more. I will recommend lots of toys and chewables. And keeping the dog near while you do stuff around the house; showing it clearly what you'd like it to do (lay on it's bed and chew a bone for example) and praising it for doing so, and rewarding it with playtime before it gets bored of staying still. Turning those desired behaviours into a habit for the dog.

Will also say to space out the playtimes if you're not already. So for example an hour of high-energy play/walk, then take time to calm him down and bring him mentally back to a relaxed level. Do some work while he rests and entertains himself quietly. And through the day, before he can get bored and cause havok, take time to play a bit/train a bit, to give him something do do and think about. Always making sure to end on a good note and bring him down to the relaxed state before moving on.

Hope that makes sense, I can't tell if I worded it well.

xxLizzyxx · Nov 26, 2012

Thanks, Fatal.

Embrace Calamity said:
Wow, I totally missed that. No wonder the poor thing is spazzing. I hope the owner does the sensible thing and gives it to a no-kill shelter.

~Maggot

I hope I was clear enough with my reply to Fatal..

lisa127 · Nov 27, 2012

katie_ said:
Thats how your posts came across.
We are not mind readers, without an explanation,we can only take your comments at face value.

SOME agression stems from fear, SOME aggression stems from dominance issues. This dog is jumping at its owners face. It is not fearful of her, it is being a little brat.

I never, at face value, said it was ok for this dog to pee in the house.

I also do not believe this particular dog is fearful. On that we agree. I was saying most aggression is from fear. This dog jumping at his owners face is yes, a bratty puppy. I agree. I do not consider a dog at 5 months of age jumping at his owners face "true aggression". Though I agree that it is as you stated bratty behavior that needs to be nipped in the bud now. It can lead to real problems later.

My original post was to let the OP know that these are for the most part behaviors that most dogs exhibit as puppys. It was never intended to imply, nor did I state, that these behaviors were acceptable.

To the OP, I also never took your post to imply that you lock the dog in the kitchen for 20 hours a day. You originally stated that you walk the pup every day, you play with him every day, and you groom him every day. That does not sound like a neglected puppy to me. As I stated earlier, an untrained dog that still pees in the house and still chews (as pups do) absolutely should have limited access to your house. He has not earned the "right" to the entire house yet.

katie_ · Nov 27, 2012

lisa127 said:
As for pottytraining, you absolutely cannot expect a toy breed dog to be reliably trained before 1 year of age. It's just most likely not going to happen. Supervision is key. Supervise and confine when you can't watch him. Many toy breeds require total management their whole lives when it comes to pottytraining. .

I read this to say that its normal for little dogs to pee in the house, sometimes their whole lives.
I disagree.

I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to show you how your posts can come off different than what you think.

lisa127 · Nov 28, 2012

katie_ said:
I read this to say that its normal for little dogs to pee in the house, sometimes their whole lives.
I disagree.

I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm just trying to show you how your posts can come off different than what you think.

Supervise and confine seem to imply that I was not condoning the behavior. I don't see where that says it's normal to pee in the house. I do see where it says they require management and supervision. And cannot be considered reliable (trustworthy) under a year of age. I also do not see where anyone else but you thought I was saying it was acceptable for this dog to pee in her house.

I've had toy breed dogs turned in for not being housetrained. I get them in my house and let them outside on a regular schedule. Guess what? No accidents! They'll tell me all their other dogs (not toy breeds) could go hours without being let out or that they waited for the dog to tell them they had to go potty. That doesn't always work with small breeds. Especially when younger, they often require more management and supervision. Kept on a stricter schedule than say your average 60 lb. shepherd mix, they are indeed housetrained. If that means your 6 month old toy breed needs to be taken out every 3 hours (even if they haven't given a signal) to avoid accidents that's what you do. Or 2 year old toy breed. Or any age toy breed.

I really need help training this crazy puppy! Please help me!?

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