can i change the eggs from one set up to another?

Angel

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Ok I have had problems with the eggs laid yesterday they looked great when i found them i put them in the sim box and they collapsed shortly after , I added more water and damp paper towel over top last night but no improvement. After not getting much info as to what to do I started googling and checking out squamata concepts page and have seen people saying that they have the same problem incubating at low temps for females in the sim container , my question is can i change the eggs over to the deli cups or is it too late or can i increase the temps to say mid 80's im incubating at 81.5-82.
I posted pics in my last thread but dont seem to be getting any answers and trying to not waste time if there is something i can do. I will try google again but havent found anything saying if i can or cant switch them over. Dont really want to handle them to much more.
 

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Get the deli cups set up for eggs, put them in the incubator for a few hours to let the substrate heat up to the right temp and then move the eggs. I have picked up incubating eggs before to candle them without difficulty. I think that's a better solution than raising the temp.

Aliza
 

Angel

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thanks , im not using hovabator but im using a converted mini fridge. I didnt know there were issues hatching at female temps with the sim or i would have started out at higher temps. i will go get the deli cups and get them going, thank you.
 

acpart

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I'm using the reptipro 5000 with the SIMs and am also incubating for female. I had to put an amazing amount of water in with the perlite to get condensation, somewhere over 2 cups. My first few eggs dented but they were also from a first timer AFT. Now I have 4 AFT eggs in there. One is slightly dented but not getting any worse and I'm hoping they will succeed.

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I think moving them will be fine, when we had eggs we had to travel and bring them with us so they made 9 hour drive to pa and a 9 hr drive back from pa with no problems, and we had to move them into a taveling arrangment and back. Just make sure the temps good in the new one.

Don't give up on the eggs we had two that constantly dented (our first two when we didn't have the humidity right) and came back. We thought for sure we would lose both. In the end we lost the one (never looked fertile) but the other one survived. They are actually pretty durable. Of course this doesn't mean that any of the scenarios are ideal but its a learning process!
 

Angel

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ya they arent flat or anything they look good other than small dents in the top , I agree the sim takes alot of water i added more last night to where i make a ball and it drips a bit when moulded together it finally is making condensation , Im thinking i will get deli cups ready and if by tomorrow they arent looking improved i will move them gives the cups a time to get to the right temp as well. does anyone know how long they can take to plump up when the humidity is right?
they werent dented in the lay box but when i wrote the initial on them it felt soft a bit so i wrote very carefully. was thinking they werent fertile if they were soft but there are bullseyes on them.
 

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There are no issues with the SIM when it comes to female temps... People are hatching cresteds and other rhacs at room temp... Mid to high 70's...

We suggest you start out with a 1 to 1 mix and if there is not enough humidity, add more water... The SIM should be set up a couple of days before you add any eggs...

You want to see a condensation line an inch past the grid line... If you do not see this line, first check to see if the lid is placed properly... If it is not sitting right, you can microwave it for 15 to 30 seacond... While it is warm, place it on the container and hold ith there for a few seconds...

Atfer you have made sure the lid fits correctly, you may need to add water to the substrate to ensure the proper humidity level...

Like any other incubation tool, you need to be sure the conditions are correct before you add eggs...

With the SIM you can run your substrate pretty wet being that the eggs are not sitting in substrate...

Once the SIM is set up properly, incubation of even the most difficult of eggs is simple...
 

Angel

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thank you I didnt know it had to be set up before the eggs arrive, the incubator has been running for weeks now. I did add more water and there is condensation now. do you think the eggs will be ok if i leave them for a bit seeing as it wasnt set up before hand? they dont seem any worse than last night just not better. and now that there is condesation should i remove the damp paper towel?
 
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Omally

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I'm not sure if this has any relevance but I figured I should mention it. I had a few eggs in the SIM that were denting pretty badly when I first set it up. I added more water to the SIM about a week ago, and now the eggs are looking totally normal. I'm using a converted mini fridge.
 

Angel

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how long did it take for them to plump back up ? I added more water as well and they arent any worse than they were but they dont seem to have improved yet. i do have a little over an inch of condenation on the sides now so hopefully i have the water right now, the paper towel is still over them but im thinking i should take it out now. Kinda thinking if I had it set up before and had it ready it would have been fine so hopefully now it will correct itself and I now know to have it set up early , my 1st eggs so learning as i go.
 
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Omally

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After thinking about it, it was more like 8-10 days between adding the water and noticing the eggs weren't dented anymore.
 

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