different eyes

[GekkoGek]

Hello everybody!

I got some unexpected results from a breeding group this year.
It took me a while to get a decent shot of it, hope this will do.

A few young gecko's had different eyes than their parents. One of the parents is an eclipse, the other one isn't.

Is the gecko in the picture below a snake eye?

Gem snow Tremper albino.

Please let me know what you think!

Thanks!

 

[tangerine]

IDK what the eyes are, but the eyes are COOL!!!!

 

[LZRDGRL]

You have a marble eye, and some people would be willing to pay several hundreds/a thousand for that :main_thumbsup: Very very beautiful!!! Try to get both genders of your offspring, breed them together, and see if that goes into the F2 generation.

You were very lucky :main_yes:

Chrissy

 

[BrightReptiles]

Very lucky to "accidentally" create a marble eyed GSTA!

 

[geckoboa]

I would say you have some crazy looking eclipses. One of the parents is probably a het and you didn't know it. Nice looking gecko though.

 

[PhoenixCoconut]

Awesome! I love marble eyes!! great job!!!!!!

 

[BrightReptiles]

Wait, just re read op. You have multiple offspring with these eyes?

 

[Thorgecko707]

Would you take $800 for it?

 

[DVReptile]

I have a murphy's patternless with what I believe to be marble eyes

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

Who did you get the breeders from? In Netherlands are people working a lot with eclipses?

 

[snared99]

That is extremely close looking to a marbled eye. I would get yourself a het or a homozygous ME and test breed it. You can breed them together but you will not know if it is the same gene.

 

[LZRDGRL]

Who cares if it is the same gene? Why buy an expensive ME if he can create his own Dutch line much cheaper through line-breeding... Isn't it even more laudable if he gets "incomplete Eclipse eyes" randomly and proves them genetic without mixing them with the American "marble eye"?

Chrissy

 

[GekkoGek]

Thank you for your replies!

Whatever this may be, only time can tell..
It will be a nice project for the next coming seasons for me. First I have to figure out if it can be reproduced in coming generations and how/if the trait inherits.

(and no.... I won't sell... yet )

 

[Big Red One]

Very nice Job......

Good luck proving it out one way or another. If it proves to be genetic then remember who your friends are !!

:main_thumbsup:

 

[snared99]

Who cares if it is the same gene? Why buy an expensive ME if he can create his own Dutch line much cheaper through line-breeding... Isn't it even more laudable if he gets "incomplete Eclipse eyes" randomly and proves them genetic without mixing them with the American "marble eye"?

Chrissy

Actually from a genetics and purity stand point it is extremely important to know if they are the same. Thinking like this is why we have so many mutts out on the market and few can give the exact genetics of their animals. How many times have people breed a gecko, and something else popped out of the incubator.

It is also important since the ME has nothing to do with the eclipse gene. And the thinking of everything can be made cheaper is why the market is hurting. More and more people want top shelf for next to nothing. This is why alot of top breeders have cut down or got out of the business. And a het ME is not expensive to test breed the animals, they go for $400 for male. That is not a high price to pay to know your genetics.

Ok Ok Ill get off the soap box now. It is just the mentality of this community is slipping the wrong way fast. Knowing your genetic make up of your animals is one of the most important aspects of breeding.

 

[justindh1]

$400 is a lot for a majority of reptile keepers out there, especially just to test breed. That is over half what I pay for rent. We are in a recession and consumers make less and have less to spend on non necessities. The average leopard gecko keeper/breeder doesn't have the resources to spend $200+ on a gecko. They start on the low end of the scale and work their way up as they go. That is the way most people have to do it.

To test breed this gecko to an eclipse seems more logical to guarantee that it isn't related to a line of genetics that it probably has a higher chance of being.

 

[Sol]

Hold on a second guys... Gekkogek, I do not believe you stumbled onto the marbled eye gene, although possible, it's far more likely that the other parent was heterozygous for eclipse..

 

[GekkoGek]

Hold on a second guys... Gekkogek, I do not believe you stumbled onto the marbled eye gene, although possible, it's far more likely that the other parent was heterozygous for eclipse..

That's my first guess too.

But have you ever seen an eclipse like that? I think the non-black parts are quite dark. Especially for a Tremper albino.

 

[chazthaking2]

Those eyes are very awesome. Eclipse eyes do some crazy things.

 

[Wild West Reptile]

It is also important since the ME has nothing to do with the eclipse gene. And the thinking of everything can be made cheaper is why the market is hurting. More and more people want top shelf for next to nothing. This is why alot of top breeders have cut down or got out of the business. And a het ME is not expensive to test breed the animals, they go for $400 for male. That is not a high price to pay to know your genetics.

It is just the mentality of this community is slipping the wrong way fast. Knowing your genetic make up of your animals is one of the most important aspects of breeding.

Well said. :main_thumbsup: