enigma syndrome!

[jeexstar]

hellos


I have a female enigma.
Mate with a male RAPTOR and a super mack snow. I do not know who is really the father... My female syndrome enigma, I should incubate the eggs? or trash?

I do not know if it's worth it .. : Main_thumbsup: : Main_thumbsdown: : Main_huh:

thank you!

 

[tb144050]

That is a tough question about whether to "abort" a living organism (...the eggs..). You will have to decide if you want to do that. However, I have read other statements on the internet before and it makes sense:

"If you decide to 'abort by not incubating the eggs', be sure to freeze the eggs overnight to ensure that the embryo does not continue trying unsuccessfully to develop at the wrong temperature (in the trash can).....this will lead to birth defects if it ever hatches."

 

[Treefolk]

All enigmas suffer from ES. There is no such thing as a clean enigma. The enigmas that are a problem are the ones that spin and/or star gaze a lot and have trouble eating. Some enigmas grow out super slow and need to be hand fed... These are traits you do not want to pass on. All enigmas can have ES brought out of them by stress. A gecko that never displayed ES can easily be triggered by a shipment.

 

[jeexstar]

A very difficult decision! yess!

I'll take a chance! In case of serious problem, how to euthanize?
I've seen that it can be difficult with young!

 

[Treefolk]

A very difficult decision! yess!

I'll take a chance! In case of serious problem, how to euthanize?
I've seen that it can be difficult with young!

Don't do it if you think you will need to euthanize the gecko... What's the point of taking a risk just to have to kill it? Basically, if you aren't willing to hand feed it for the rest of its life, don't hatch it. It's as simple as putting the egg in the fridge to kill it.

 

[tb144050]

hellos


I have a female enigma.
Mate with a male RAPTOR and a super mack snow. I do not know who is really the father

I am guessing and hoping that this was an unplanned gravid female due to a 2-male + 1-female cagemate mixup??

 

[SCGeckos]

Here is a great and very detailed discussion on Enigmas and "Enigma Syndrome"
LNL TALKS ENIGMA SYNDROME WITH ART GECKOS 01/25 by Late Night Leos | Pets Podcasts

 

[jeexstar]

I bought this yesterday. it was coupled with the boy.
Without knowing that she had the syndrome .... Today, she's fine!

Probably due to transportation?

 

[Kristi23]

I've had two enigmas never show any signs of syndrome even when shipped or laying eggs. I feel fine breeding those. I won't breed any that show a lot of signs though. JMO

 

[Treefolk]

I've had two enigmas never show any signs of syndrome even when shipped or laying eggs. I feel fine breeding those. I won't breed any that show a lot of signs though. JMO

I wouldn't take comfort in that. My enigma from John at Geckoboa came from a "completely" free line (don't get me wrong, I believe him in that the population doesn't express ES, but it's still there) and upon arrival she was spinning and stargazing. Since she settled she has shown very little ES, but it's there. Matt and SaSobeks told me that he won't work with them and they all have ES. Craig at TUG has also told me that they all have it. I'm gonna trust that these guys that hatch out in the thousands know what they are talking about.

 

[Kristi23]

I wouldn't take comfort in that. My enigma from John at Geckoboa came from a "completely" free line (don't get me wrong, I believe him in that the population doesn't express ES, but it's still there) and upon arrival she was spinning and stargazing. Since she settled she has shown very little ES, but it's there. Matt and SaSobeks told me that he won't work with them and they all have ES. Craig at TUG has also told me that they all have it. I'm gonna trust that these guys that hatch out in the thousands know what they are talking about.

I didn't say that they don't have it. I said that I only breed the ones not showing it. You take a chance no matter what if you work with enigmas, but I won't breed any showing signs. But all have enigma syndrome. It's part of being an enigma.