Hey there everyone! Hoping i can get some help from the community, Awhile back i opened a post asking for reassurance that what i bought on Craigslist truly was as sold, a Mack snow raptor female/ and a raptor male. The link can be found here with pics of both mom and dad.http://geckoforums.net/f125-morphs-genetics/102145.htm Well now the time has come where they bred and we hatched out 2 babies.(we moved while she was gravid and i think the change in climate/moving stress stoped her season, as she only laid 2 eggs)
I know its not a true "test breeding" by trying to prove genes by the first 2 babies hatched but i hoped we could do a bit of thinking.
So if mom and dad are truly mack raptor and a raptor, reptile calculator gives you a genetic outcome of half Mack snow raptors, half raptors. now i know that does not account for unknown hets.
Well here is pics of the two babies produced. IMO they are neither raptors or Mack raptors. The one is clearly a Mack snow and it does have solid black eyes. The other has no eye pigment that i can see, it does have a lighter yellow than im used to in babies so that always stuck out at me. But other than than it appears to me to be pretty much a normal with a broken back pattern. So what i take from this is that either mom and dad are not as sold or there are unknown hets. Hoped we could maybe put some heads together and using deduction maybe find out what the het are or if parents are mislabeled. Since there IS clearly Snow gene/eye pigment going on we should have a base to work with.
So the few specific questions i have to the community are this.
I'd like to hear opinions on what you think the hatching's could be only on the pics alone. not knowing the parents.
Now knowing the parents are a Raptor male and a Mack Snow Raptor female what do you think?
If the "test breeding" doesn't add up for you either, why? and what do you think could of caused it? unknown hets or parents being mislabeled?
The one calculation i did that made closest sense is if mom was a mack elcipse insted of raptor it gives you an outcome of half mack eclipse half eclipse. Id agree with that but the "normal" doesn't have eye pigment that i see(tho they were very dark for first few weeks.)
Thanks in advance for any help!
The snow is clearly about to shed il take some more pics tomorrow after she shed
I know its not a true "test breeding" by trying to prove genes by the first 2 babies hatched but i hoped we could do a bit of thinking.
So if mom and dad are truly mack raptor and a raptor, reptile calculator gives you a genetic outcome of half Mack snow raptors, half raptors. now i know that does not account for unknown hets.
Well here is pics of the two babies produced. IMO they are neither raptors or Mack raptors. The one is clearly a Mack snow and it does have solid black eyes. The other has no eye pigment that i can see, it does have a lighter yellow than im used to in babies so that always stuck out at me. But other than than it appears to me to be pretty much a normal with a broken back pattern. So what i take from this is that either mom and dad are not as sold or there are unknown hets. Hoped we could maybe put some heads together and using deduction maybe find out what the het are or if parents are mislabeled. Since there IS clearly Snow gene/eye pigment going on we should have a base to work with.
So the few specific questions i have to the community are this.
I'd like to hear opinions on what you think the hatching's could be only on the pics alone. not knowing the parents.
Now knowing the parents are a Raptor male and a Mack Snow Raptor female what do you think?
If the "test breeding" doesn't add up for you either, why? and what do you think could of caused it? unknown hets or parents being mislabeled?
The one calculation i did that made closest sense is if mom was a mack elcipse insted of raptor it gives you an outcome of half mack eclipse half eclipse. Id agree with that but the "normal" doesn't have eye pigment that i see(tho they were very dark for first few weeks.)
Thanks in advance for any help!
The snow is clearly about to shed il take some more pics tomorrow after she shed
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