Myfi
New Member
- Messages
- 16
- Location
- Seattle, WA
About your leo:
- Female
- 2 months at time of buy, 9 at time of death
- 7 months
- Petsmart (When i bought her she was healthy and happy and very...vigorous, i had her checked out)
A) Health/History
- On a daily basis, when i wake up in the morning she paws at the glass and i have her on my shoulder all morning, then i let her sleep all day while i am at school, then if she feels like it she stays on my shoulder in the afternoon. If she would not come to my hand, i would not get her out or bother her.
- 1st week - Started not eating as much, didnt poop for about a week.
- 2nd week - Suspected an impaction, took her to the doctor. Confirmed NOT an impaction, but of what little she did eat there were few remains. Enema was performed to ensure that she wasnt.
- 3rd week - Started getting grey, further loss of interest in food, starts to lose fat in tail
- 4th week - stops eating of her own will entirely, begins to lose mobility in the rear half of her body
- 5th week - is taken to the doctor again and checked for parasites, but as they were not found in the previous enema nor the one he performed that day to check again, was supposedly negative for them. At this point she has lost all of her beautiful golden color and is grey and lackluster. Has lost all movement in her back legs and her tail skin is wrinkly and loose and deflated-looking. Doctor prescribes antibiotics and instructs me to mix it with vanilla ensure, possibly chopping up crickets or some other food item to give her some form of more solid nutrition. She laps up the medication and ensure willingly enough, but will have nothing to do with the cricket bits.
- 6th week - same condition
- 7th week- begins refusing to go near the medication or any food or nourishment altogether, develops a dark red/purple sunken spot near the middle of her body slightly to the side of her spine. I do not have any pictures of this spot but it was sunken in approx 1mm into her flesh, and was close to the size of a dime. At this point, i asked my parents to stop forcefeeding her the medication (i had stopped two days before as i had noted by that point that it was in no way helping and she was MY pet so i felt that it was more my decision, also she obviously was in pain) Any contact with her at that point resulted in whimpers of pain from her so I simply made her a hide that was very close to the ground and easy for her to get into, she crawled in at about 8 at night and the next morning she was gone.
R.I.P. Jewel.
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.
Before this incident she was completely healthy and happy in every way.
B) Fecals
- After the beginning of this incident, fecal was rare and on the occasion where she did it was very watery and not much
C) Problem
- Please briefly descrive the problem and how long it has been going on
Housing:
A) Enclosure
- 20g
- glass
- reptile carpet
- 3 hides, one with stairs to get closer to her basking lamp if she wished, one half log, and
http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=350&uid=1794298012
B) Heating
- undertank heater, red 75w heat lamp on one side of tank, cool on other
http://www.petco.com/product/6353/Z...o Med Repti-Therm UTH Under Tank Heaters-6353 8 watt
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...9x00001a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=SPM2024114601 this but red
- 93~95 warm side, 75 cool side
- timer turning the heat lamp off at night
- What are you using to measure your temps
http://www.petco.com/product/6452/P...reCat=LeopardGeckoHPTemperatureControlHeating
- Do you have any lights (describe)
C) Cage mates
None
Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
mostly crickets, occasionally superworms, for a treat dubia roaches (she still weakly nibbled at one in the last stages of her illness, bless her heart) every few large feedings were dusted
- fed 3-4 times a week, and she had a MASSIVE appetite, she grew fast. About a dozen crickets a day...at least. In the 7 or so months i had her she grew from barely 3 inches to over 7.
- Would put her in a large plastic bin with a 4watt heat pad in the bottom so she wouldnt get chilled, put the powdered crickets in, and would watch her chow. Would hand feed dubia roaches and the superworms got the same treatment as the crickets.
B) Supplements (describe how often)
calcium powder every few feedings and a calcium dish in her tank
- What vitamin/minerals are you using (list brands)
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...ers/-/exo-terra-calcium-powder-with-d3-159oz/
she also went out with me in the sun in the summers (in NC it hovered in the 90's and sometimes in the 100s)
- What are you gut loading food with
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18441
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=6466&rel=1
This leo is already dead for a while now, but i am still asking so if i start seeing the symptoms ever again i can hopefully figure out whats wrong and prevent a similar debilitating death.
- Female
- 2 months at time of buy, 9 at time of death
- 7 months
- Petsmart (When i bought her she was healthy and happy and very...vigorous, i had her checked out)
A) Health/History
- On a daily basis, when i wake up in the morning she paws at the glass and i have her on my shoulder all morning, then i let her sleep all day while i am at school, then if she feels like it she stays on my shoulder in the afternoon. If she would not come to my hand, i would not get her out or bother her.
- 1st week - Started not eating as much, didnt poop for about a week.
- 2nd week - Suspected an impaction, took her to the doctor. Confirmed NOT an impaction, but of what little she did eat there were few remains. Enema was performed to ensure that she wasnt.
- 3rd week - Started getting grey, further loss of interest in food, starts to lose fat in tail
- 4th week - stops eating of her own will entirely, begins to lose mobility in the rear half of her body
- 5th week - is taken to the doctor again and checked for parasites, but as they were not found in the previous enema nor the one he performed that day to check again, was supposedly negative for them. At this point she has lost all of her beautiful golden color and is grey and lackluster. Has lost all movement in her back legs and her tail skin is wrinkly and loose and deflated-looking. Doctor prescribes antibiotics and instructs me to mix it with vanilla ensure, possibly chopping up crickets or some other food item to give her some form of more solid nutrition. She laps up the medication and ensure willingly enough, but will have nothing to do with the cricket bits.
- 6th week - same condition
- 7th week- begins refusing to go near the medication or any food or nourishment altogether, develops a dark red/purple sunken spot near the middle of her body slightly to the side of her spine. I do not have any pictures of this spot but it was sunken in approx 1mm into her flesh, and was close to the size of a dime. At this point, i asked my parents to stop forcefeeding her the medication (i had stopped two days before as i had noted by that point that it was in no way helping and she was MY pet so i felt that it was more my decision, also she obviously was in pain) Any contact with her at that point resulted in whimpers of pain from her so I simply made her a hide that was very close to the ground and easy for her to get into, she crawled in at about 8 at night and the next morning she was gone.
R.I.P. Jewel.
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.
Before this incident she was completely healthy and happy in every way.
B) Fecals
- After the beginning of this incident, fecal was rare and on the occasion where she did it was very watery and not much
C) Problem
- Please briefly descrive the problem and how long it has been going on
Housing:
A) Enclosure
- 20g
- glass
- reptile carpet
- 3 hides, one with stairs to get closer to her basking lamp if she wished, one half log, and
http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=350&uid=1794298012
B) Heating
- undertank heater, red 75w heat lamp on one side of tank, cool on other
http://www.petco.com/product/6353/Z...o Med Repti-Therm UTH Under Tank Heaters-6353 8 watt
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...9x00001a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=SPM2024114601 this but red
- 93~95 warm side, 75 cool side
- timer turning the heat lamp off at night
- What are you using to measure your temps
http://www.petco.com/product/6452/P...reCat=LeopardGeckoHPTemperatureControlHeating
- Do you have any lights (describe)
C) Cage mates
None
Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
mostly crickets, occasionally superworms, for a treat dubia roaches (she still weakly nibbled at one in the last stages of her illness, bless her heart) every few large feedings were dusted
- fed 3-4 times a week, and she had a MASSIVE appetite, she grew fast. About a dozen crickets a day...at least. In the 7 or so months i had her she grew from barely 3 inches to over 7.
- Would put her in a large plastic bin with a 4watt heat pad in the bottom so she wouldnt get chilled, put the powdered crickets in, and would watch her chow. Would hand feed dubia roaches and the superworms got the same treatment as the crickets.
B) Supplements (describe how often)
calcium powder every few feedings and a calcium dish in her tank
- What vitamin/minerals are you using (list brands)
http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...ers/-/exo-terra-calcium-powder-with-d3-159oz/
she also went out with me in the sun in the summers (in NC it hovered in the 90's and sometimes in the 100s)
- What are you gut loading food with
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=18441
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=6466&rel=1
This leo is already dead for a while now, but i am still asking so if i start seeing the symptoms ever again i can hopefully figure out whats wrong and prevent a similar debilitating death.
Kudos to you for taking her to the vet. Do you by chance have any photos of her when she was so bad? IDK about the spot you described near the spine. One of the early symptoms of crypto is watery stools, but it takes a different test to diagnose than the regular fecal float. Cryptosporidiosis is a nasty parasitic disease for which there is no known cure. We are not vets here and cannot say with any certainty that's what she had, but it is safe to say suspected. One of the best short reads on the subject is here 