Afghanicus

eric

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i am looking at possible getting a pair of afghans can any one tell me a little about them?can they be breed into other morphs and the benefit of doing so?
 
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Ofcourse they can breed into other morphs, the benefit of crossing them into your bloodlines would be the fact that it will strengthen your bloodline, and will produce more robust offspring! :) Great choice if you do choose to buy them.
 

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Nigel4less said:
Ofcourse they can breed into other morphs, the benefit of crossing them into your bloodlines would be the fact that it will strengthen your bloodline, and will produce more robust offspring! :) Great choice if you do choose to buy them.

or one would like to assume. It could also bring about deleterious alleles, or lethal combinations of genes too. Not always safe to assume that just through outcrossing you magically "strengthen" a bloodline.
 

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tokaykeeper could you explain and give examples of (It could also bring about deleterious alleles, or lethal combinations of genes too)
 

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the only one that i know of that has bred Afghanicus in the US. is Alberto from A&M geckos. i know that he bred for pure Afghanicus and he also crossed a Afghanicus to a Raptor. the cross grows very quickly and are very rubust babies. i personaly have two females from the cross and they are very stong and great eaters. as of yet there has been negitive affects.

as far as other subspiecies i crossed Fasciolatus to some things last year.

i kept the line pure and out crossed it to a couple of thing. the F2 of the crosses are breeding now. they were very fast gowing as well and were great eaters right out of the eggs.

as far as defects: out of the over 60 babies (pure and cross) that were hatched only one had a slight defect and that was when i crossed fasciolatus to fasciolatus. i had one baby that its tail was about 5% shorter then the rest of them. i think this was just because of an incubation issue and not a genetic defect.


as far as other out crosses, that i am working on i will let you know more about them as they come about.
 

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as far as a Lethal Gene from my experience so far in working with the different subspecies i have see no such thing. i think it would be more likely to happen in linebred colonies then in out crosses ones. IMO
 

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Hey thanks Matt sounds great good luck and i look forward to hearing about your crosses thanks!!
 

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if you would like i can take pics of the afghan cross next to a regular just let me know
 

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SaSobek said:
as far as a Lethal Gene from my experience so far in working with the different subspecies i have see no such thing. i think it would be more likely to happen in linebred colonies then in out crosses ones. IMO

exactly, I just mention it as so many people view "new blood" as the catch all fix to everything, when issues can arise as well. Something to always think about.
 

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eric the other cool thing is that the Afghan seem to be more communal then the other leos that i have.

IMO it seams that leos can get stressed with others being around like they have a peaking order if you will, even when its just females in the cage.

with the afghan i havent seen such things. i have only had my Afghans for a couple of months but they seem much calmer around each other.
 

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when alberto crossed the raptor to the afghan the albino gene wasn't passed on to the offspring? is this what you meant when you said"as of yet there has been negitive affects." and i am sold i got to get some!
 

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the albino gene was passed on. but because it was breeding non albino(pure afghan) to albino (RAPTOR) so all the babies are 100% het.

so none of that generation will be albino. the next generation will give you albino if you breed them to an albino or a het albino.

and by no negative defects i ment like genetic defects or physical problems.
 

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OK now that i reread my words that was a dooh! sorry.. thanks Matt i really appreciate your help on this.
 
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