Albino gecko had babies

tjens215

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So around Christmas last year I got a leopard gecko that was housed with many all in one enclosure. We adopted her not knowing much about her other than that she looked albino and was a female.
Not long after she started laying eggs. My son was so excited so I built an incubator quick (I use to raise box turtles so I knew what I was doing) and we successfully hatched 3 of her 14 eggs she produced. The one is 5 months old and the other two are both 4 months old.
Is there any way to tell what any of their genetics/morphs are?
I am trying to get the pictures of all the geckos that were rescued together to try to determine which one the male was. I don't plan on breeding her again as I don't know the specific albino type she is but would like to know more on what could possibly be in the kids. Thank you everyone for any help you can offer!

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This is the mom
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Neon Aurora

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Well you can't tell a whole lot, but there are a few things.

The female to me looks like an albino mack snow stripe. The bottom two babies are mack snows and the top is a normal. The male was either non-albino or a different strain of albino.

So the best I can do with the babies is this:
1) Normal with unknown hets
2) Mack snow with unknown hets
3) Mack snow with unknown hets

Mom:
Albino (strain unknown) mack snow stripe
 

tjens215

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I did hear back from the person we rescued the mother gecko from and she said that she is pretty sure the males were all "high color" geckos. She thinks she has pictures still of all of the geckos and is going to get me some. She said she thinks all of the males were all "high color" but I will know more later today hopefully. Also thanks for the help so far!

UPDATE!!!
The lady sent me this pic of one of the males. I guess there were only 2 males in the group and both of them looked like this one in the picture.

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Again thanks for all the help everyone!
 
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tjens215

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Does anyone have any other ideas on the offspring now that I know what the male looked like? (She also told me that both males had more spots than what were shown in the pic, greater than 10, but still very limited.)

Also, Neon Aurora, I have an image of the first baby that you considered a "normal w/ unknown hets. I found a picture I took of it after it was born and it was white and black banded. Would this mean it is actually a Mack snow even though it presents a lot of color now?

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Neon Aurora

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Yes, that looks like it is probably a mack snow.

You won't be able to tell anything else about the babies. The male and the female could have unknown hets, and you can't tell those visually. The only thing I can tell about the male visually is that he is a hypo.
 

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On hypos then, does there need to be less than a certain number of spots to classify it as a hypo? If it were to exceed said number, what would it be called then? Just curious...

With the "dad" having the white on its tail and head, could it possibly be Mack snow also? Making it potentially a hypo Mack snow?

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Neon Aurora

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Hypos with too many spots are called normals or wild types. Basically, a hypo is a normal/wild type with reduced spotting.

I suppose it's possible that he is a mack snow (it's tough to tell once they are bigger than hatchlings or young juvies, though, which is why I thought your first baby was a normal), but he doesn't really look it to me. There is no evidence either way. If you had produced a mack super snow, I could be sure that the male is a mack snow. But since you only produced mack snows, it could go either way. Even if he was, it would not change what I can tell from your babies. Leopard geckos have a lot of recessive genes and you can't tell they have them unless they have two copies.

So you have 3 mack snows het for an unknown strain of albinism (possibly more than one strain) and possibly for whatever either of the parents was carrying recessively.
 
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tjens215

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Thank you so much! I know it makes no difference to speculate on what the male might have been but I always loved genetics and this stuff just gets me a little too excited to try to figure out lol


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