try blapticadubia.com or blaberus.com. They are really gud. I have only ordered from blapticadubia.com since you only need one order to get started breeding and they were great. I havent had a single dead roach since i got them and its been like 3 months. They take a while to start cus mine just started boming and now i have like 100 babies. In a few months i should have some if u still want to buy.:main_thumbsup: