aptor x aptor

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You can get Aptors, and likely Raptors. Just about any other pattern is possible too(normal eyed or solid eyed). IMO there is no such thing as an Aptor "possible het" for Raptor. The patterning trait is what causes the "Eclipse"(called Raptor when Albino) mutation, in the first place. I would say at the very least a great-majority of them are het Raptor. The same goes for a gecko of any pattern, that is "het Aptor" as well. ;)
 

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No. Both parents would need to be atleast 100% hets to definatly get RAPTORS. With only one parent possibly being a het, there is no chance of RAPTORS.
 

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I think he means that ALL aptors are het for RAPTOR. It seems that the eclipse eye trait came as a byproduct when mixing stripes, and several people, including Dan, have created RAPTORS by crossing stripes w/ reverse stripes. When I posted I considered bringing this up, but lost the ambition, so I just took the easy way out.
 

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Talbino patternless striped X Talbino patternless striped = .

Offsping results range from.

Talbino normal.
Talbino aberrant.
Talbino jungle.
Talbino striped.
Talbino reverse striped.
Talbino patternless striped.(APTOR).

All offspring trait carriers of Jungle,Striped,Reverse striped,Patternless striped,Tangerine.

If the APTOR's happen to both be HET Eclipse then.

Talbino patternless striped HET Eclipse X Talbino patternless striped HET Eclipse = .

Offsping results range from.

Talbino normal Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse normal.
Talbino aberrant Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse aberrant.
Talbino jungle Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse jungle.
Talbino striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse striped.
Talbino reverse striped Poss-HET Eclipse.
Talbino eclipse reverse striped.
Talbino patternless striped HET Eclipse.(APTOR Poss-HET Eclipse).
Talbino eclipse patternless striped.(RAPTOR).

All offspring trait carriers of Jungle,Striped,Reverse striped,Patternless striped,Tangerine.
 

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Most aptors are het raptor by proxy. The patternless stripe combo has been proven to unlock the gene for the eclipse eye mutation. The problem is, alot of people have pawned off patterned trempers as aptors, so they won't always be het ECLIPSE.
 

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Exactly. An Aptor is just an Albino "Patternless Stripe". It was found in the PRS-project, that the pattern itself is what "unlocks" the Eclipse gene. That, along with quite a few other "coincidences", proved that the "Aptor" gene, also unlocks the same mutation.

*Recessive stripes like Red Stripes can be bred to recessive Reverse Stripe- types to create Patternless Stripes. Which is like having non-Albino Aptors. You will not get Eclipse from that cross alone, that`s what it sounded like some of you have said. Once you have the "Patternless(Striped)" gene, they are like hets, then you need to breed them to other "hets", PRS, Aptors, Raptors, Eclipse`. Paul is right, there is some confusion about which ones are Aptors, and everyone has a different opinion, on that too. lol

* Recessive as in a non-simple, co-recessive gene. Hence the ability for one type to "create", a new type.
 

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