Aptor x Hybino = raptor? Is it true?

[Jaxon]

Heard this from a seller that if you breed an aptor to a hybino you get a raptor. I know Raptor carries many type of genes but how true is that?

 

[supperl]

If both are het raptor why not^^
Problem is most ppl dunno that their Geckos are het Raptor.

 

[Ipsl]

Nice new pic Mr Schmidt

If you had a stright hybino wich is just a tang tremper I belive. You wouldn't get RAPTORs unless they both were het for eclipse, seen as ruby eyes in albinos. You might get some APTORs but not very sure since (R)APTORs are elegidly stripe and rev-stripe "patternless".

 

[Jaxon]

Thank you guys for the replies. ^^

 

[supperl]

THX Jarome^^ my girflfirned said my old pic would look bad^^

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

I think that the Hybino would have to at least come from an Aptor, Patternless Stripe, or even a "het Aptor", Hybino cross.

I have never bred/heard of, an Aptor, "het Aptor", or "possible het Aptor" that did not prove out to be het Eclipse. So I think it is possible someone purchased an Aptor, or Hybino with some "bonus" genetics.:main_yes:

 

[Ipsl]

I have never bred/heard of, an Aptor, "het Aptor", or "possible het Aptor" that did not prove out to be het Eclipse. So I think it is possible someone purchased an Aptor, or Hybino with some "bonus" genetics.:main_yes:

If that was the case than all APTORs would be het RAPTOR and thats not true.

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

There are not very many of them, that are not "het" Raptor, and like I said I have not bred, or heard of one that was not. The very first "Aptors" released were all het Raptor, even ones that were said were only het for Aptor. That and the fact the "Patternless Stripes" looked alot like Aptors, was what made me decide to figure the genetics out.

This is what we found when breeding the "Patternless Stripes". They are indeed the same pattern as the Aptor and...

The eye "mutation" seems to come from the Patternless Stripe(or Aptor) combination. The Red Stripe X Reverse Stripe("Patternless Stripe") geckos were like "homemade" het Raptors, and there is no other way to explain that then...We are dealing with more of a "Cooperating Recessive" gene. Which takes certain combinations of genes to make a "new" appearance. Example: Hatching the same thing as a non-albino Aptor(het Raptor) from Red Stripe X Reverse Stripe Albino, and hatching Eclipse and Raptors from the PRS alone(or when bred to Raptors), when they were not even related to R/Aptors.

In the history of patterning traits Jungles and Stripes came first, well out of those lines came Reverse Stripe. Which IMO makes it the "super" form of Jungle/Stripe. "Patternless" followed, and would be like a "super" form of Stripes, and/or Reverse Stripes. Eclipse would then be the "super" form of "Patternless Stripe"(or Aptor).

That is why when you breed "Patternless Stripe"(or Aptor) to a Raptor you get Raptors. That is probably why you do not seem to get any Stripes breeding "Patternless Raptors" or Aptors together, and you only get those and Reverse Stripes. Kind of in the same way you only hatch "Super" Snows when breeding two of them together.:main_yes:

 

[paulnj]

I bred a raptor to an aptor and got jungles, a RERS and a RAPTOR so far from the pairing.

 

[supperl]

Well as I said I guess its just that their are more het Raptors thought et least in 3rd gen or so.
pairing an het Raptor to an Sunglow wil bring you a 50% het Raptor. If somone gets such a bueaty and pairs it to his slection of sunglows he may wouldn´t note that it could possible be a het Raptor right? SO I guess their are more normasl Sunglows Hybinos and so on that are het Raptor/Eclipse as the named ones hehe.