Blind rescued leo housing and heating

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I recently rescued a leo that was abandoned at the pet store I work at. It was in rough shape and after going to the vet and having thick eye caps removed was diagnosed with mouth rot and an eye ulcer, and the tips of a couple toes are very dark red from shed that was probably left on for a long time. Basically she is currently blind, as she holds her eyes shut until I put in eye drops, and even when she opens them the eyes look black and unresponsive to movement. The guy abandoned her in a 18x18x18 exo terra tank with front opening doors. I know a 20 gallon long would be ideal, but I was wondering if it would be wise to move her to such a large tank when she is unable to see? She gets around all right in her current cage but the size and layout is all familiar to her as well. If anyone has experience with blind leos I'd appreciate an opinion of this.

As well as the cage size, the heating of the cage is rather confusing as well to me. The warm side of her tank is 88-90 F, and the cool side is 79-80 F. I've read that the temp can drop down to 65-75 at night, which my room falls in the range of, but I've also read that the UTH should be left on during the night as well. right now I heat the cage with a UTH and a purple light lamp. The lamp I've been turning off at night, and turning the UTH down to low, but since many heat their tanks with exclusively a UTH, how would leaving it on at night be beneficial if the temp is supposed to drop at night? Is it supposed to be kept on but turned down to low, or should all heating devices just be turned off at night if the rooms temperature is in the right range.
 

scm133

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I do not have any experience with blind geckos, but I think you are on the right track. Yes, I would keep her enclosure small, like it is.
I would not worry to much about night time drops. As long as she has a proper temperature gradient, then she will be fine. You are probably not getting a huge temp difference between the warm and cold size because of the floor space. You might try moving the UTH to one corner, and see if that helps. If not maybe a smaller UTH. The over head lamp is really not necessary, and can make it complicated when trying to tweak the floor temps. Just work with the UTH, and see if you can get a 90-92 (belly heat)on hot side, and 75-80(belly heat) on cool. Good luck!
 

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I once rescued a leo who was blind, had huge eye caps, a prolapsed and infected hemipene, was agressive due to the fact that he was never socialized, was living on soiled towels and repticarpet with a faulty heat rock and an abscess. He was also extremely thin, and his tail had been ripped off by a cat since his tank didn't have a lid before I got him. He was albino, but also had solid black eyes with crooked gold pupils after the eye caps were removed. I recieved him from my brother, who inherited him when his best friend (practically my older brother) passed away of cancer in 2011. I recieved the gecko after six months of my brothers care left him nearly dead.

When I recieved him he was in a 30 gallon long with a ton of random decorations everywhere (and poop and dead bugs everywhere. :( ) But i switched him to paper towel, and shrank his enclosure down to one large hide (that spanned the hot and cool side), a water bowl, a calcium dish, and a food bowl. I simply misted him when he was about to shed. He took to an enviorment change very well, and seemed happier when his enclosure became more simple. But he became happiest when I moved him to a tub in my rack system with only one large deli cup hide, and all of his bowls a few inches from the hide entrance. The simpler the better! But you still need room enough to have a proper heat gradient. A ten gallon (or similar floor space) would be best IMHO. You don't need the light, especially in that small of a space. And you don't need a temperature drop at night. Just keep a third of the tank constantly heated (87-95 F) with a heatpad controlled with a thermostat. And keep the tank as simple as possible, to minimize his stress levels. Feel free to PM me with any questions you might have in the future, seeing as we seem to have very similar situations, and mine ended in a fat happy gecko :)

and out of curiosity, is this what your gecko's eyes look llike? This is my boy after his eye caps were removed

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http://geckoforums.net/f130-health-medications/96100.htm <------ And this is the thread where I tracked my blind guy's recovery. It's an interesting read at the least, and it sounds strangely similar to what seems to have happened to you :)
 

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Thank you for the response, I read through your thread and I'm glad everything turned out well for your friend :). I actually just went to a follow up appointment for my gecko, and although she needs to be observed carefully for the next little while, she is doing great! Her eyes are all black though, no colouration at all, but there is a faint outline where you can see the pupil. She also has a white splotch on the bottom of her right eye and the top of the left. After giving antibiotic eye drops and no improvement to the white spots the vet thinks it may just be a permanent defect and to just watch to see if they get worse. She was holding her eyes shut for about 10 days after the caps were removed, then she went through a shed in my care. Despite the humid hide it was severely stuck around her head and eyes and I had to remove it all. After removing the new shed around her eyes she started keeping them open and now can actually see some movement, but I still have to hold her prey for her to actually be able to catch it. The toes that were shriveled on the tips are still shriveled, but there's still blood supply going to the nail, so maybe they will bounce back. Either way she has been given a relatively clean bill of health which I'm thankful for :p
 

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Thats great to hear! My boys other eye was completely black also, but no white splotches.... I wonder what those could be, hmmmm:main_robin: Either way, I'm glad that she is doing so well! You will probably see a ton of improvement in her after all of her medications stop. Just keep an eye on her after she sheds. My boy would never pull the eye caps off (probably because he didn't see them ;) ) so i had to do it for him, and that is easiest to do while the skin is still fresh and loose from a recent shed. But who knows! Your girl might start pulling them off herself, but only time will tell :) Well I hope that we helped you a little bit, but keep us posted on how she's doing please! :D
 

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