Blizzard Question

[ProCreationReptiles]

I have been under the impression that Blizzards carry the albino gene, is this not correct?

Thank you

 

[sunshinegeckos]

Not necessarily. Its a color morph like a murphy patternless. Its a recessive morph. You can see it crossed with many different morphs like mack snow, raptor etc.

 

[LeopardShade]

Blazing Blizzards carry the albino gene, because they are Albino Blizzards. Regular Blizzards, though, are just another recessive mutation, as said above as well. They are rather unique, beautiful in their simplicity.

 

[ProCreationReptiles]

Blizzard

Thank you!

So would a midnight blizzard have albino genes?

 

[sunshinegeckos]

Im not sure a midnight blizzard is a real thing. From what i read its just what they call darker blizzards but its not a proven morph.

 

[TokayKeeper]

a blizzard, a midnight blizzard****, a banana blizzard******, etc WILL NOT have any albino gene associated with in UNLESS:

• it is heterozygous for albino (any one of the 3 strains)
• is homozygous recessive for "blazing" (= albino blizzard)

Blizzard is a recessive single gene mutation, just like albinism and patternless. The only way a blizzard would "have albino genes" would be if a blizzard was bred to a:

• blizzard het albino, which would equal all blizzard offspring with 50% having the statistical chance of being het for albino (or 50% possible hets)
• any of the 3 albino strains (Bell, Rainwater, or Tremper), which would make all normals that would be het for blizzard and albino.
• an albino het for blizzard, which would yield 50% of the offspring being het blizzard and het albino, with the other 50% being blizzards het for albino.
• a blazing blizzard (aka albino blizzard), which all offspring would be blizzard het albino.

****Midnight Blizzards - Leopardgeckowiki.com link - are nothing more than just dark blizzards at hatching. With age they developed into normal, plain ole looking blizzards. Many, many, many, many years ago breeders solid them as just plain ole blizzards as there is no known genetic anomally shown through test cross breedings; all it is is color variation.

******True banana blizzards are a double recessive morph. They are the recessive traits blizzard and patternless (murphy) being expressed at the same time; just like blazing blizzards (albinism and blizzard expressed at same time), patternless albino (albino and patternless expressed at same time), or like in corn snakes the "snow" morph (anerythrism and albinism expressed at same time).

 

[LeopardShade]

Thank you!

So would a midnight blizzard have albino genes?

No. As stated above by Tokay, Midnight Blizzards are just randomly dark Blizzards that hatch out. Many people like to think that they are a new morph, but they're not. Just Blizzard genes. Selective breeding on these dark Blizzards could prove to be interesting, though.

 

[Darcpixie]

I think a better analogue in corn snakes is likely to be Blizzard (charcoal (anery b) and amelenistic) as it is a patternless animal. but carry on.

This is why BOTH accurate morph names AND good record keeping are required. When it becomes a white thing, be it a whitesnake or a white lizard, knowing exactly what you have is needed.

 

[TokayKeeper]

I think a better analogue in corn snakes is likely to be Blizzard (charcoal (anery b) and amelenistic) as it is a patternless animal. but carry on.

Yes and no...yes if you want to view the direction of this thread as solely patternless animal traits.

No in the respect that my intentions were to utilize examples of a given mode of inheritence in order to convey simple mendelian genetics by explaining the first half of college genetics (and I dare say high school biology) in 500000000000 words or less. [ /sarcasm ]

 

[Darcpixie]

Yes and no...yes if you want to view the direction of this thread as solely patternless animal traits.

No in the respect that my intentions were to utilize examples of a given mode of inheritence in order to convey simple mendelian genetics by explaining the first half of college genetics (and I dare say high school biology) in 500000000000 words or less. [ /sarcasm ]

Oh I know! I just was saying that perhaps in the interest of NOT having someone come back with *wait what? blizzard is or is not a snow? but corn snake snows have pattern/there is already a snow in leopard geckos!* I figured I would just make an anery substitution that has the same basic recessive inheritance and more closely resembles the animals in question.

Given that I breed the silly snakes, trying to do things like calculate my bloodred poss het charcoal lavender hypo stripe and the offspring is SO much more painful then these silly and adorable critters.

Line bred traits are so much fun, but can be SO confusing.

We need a sarcasm font. ASAP.