bold stripe and eclipse stripe

[boywonder]

does anybody know if the stripe part of patternless stripes found in eclipse/RAPTORs is the same trait as in bold stripes? has anyone bred a bold stripe with a RAPTOR and what were the offspring like?

 

[boywonder]

so nobody know's the answer then? i thought at least one person would have done this cross before

 

[Nigel4less]

Its been done, they are both Line-Bred, The offspring are usually VERY Jungle and have loads of abberancies.

 

[boywonder]

sounds like a good pairing then, and does that mean that bold stripes and the stripe part of patternless stripes originated from the same jungle beginning? just taken in two completely different directions? could a bold stripe to a reverse stripe eclipse produce eclipses first generation?

 

[Nigel4less]

No, the Bold Stripe is from Jungle beginnings, while the Patternless stripe only occurs via the Eclipse Trait.

 

[Gazz]

does anybody know if the stripe part of patternless stripes found in eclipse/RAPTORs is the same trait as in bold stripes? has anyone bred a bold stripe with a RAPTOR and what were the offspring like?

Patternless stripe and bold stripe are two differant type of striped influance.Bold striped is a more controled verson of striped more uniformed but basically the same.Talbino eclipse patternless striped & eclipse Patternless striped and all that come from this line.Are trait carrier's of jungle,striped,reverse striped,patternless striped,Anyway so you can breed any of them to a Talbino eclipse patternless striped and eclipse patternless striped and get anything from Banded,Aberrant,Jungle,Striped,Reverse striped,Patternless striped.

 

[boywonder]

so what pairings did the very first eclipses come from? and are bold stripes linebred from jungles?

 

[godzillizard]

while the Patternless stripe only occurs via the Eclipse Trait.

actually, the "patternless" stripe first emerged in the HQ line Redstripes, as far as I'm aware, and was then bred with Tremper stripes/reverse stripes to make Eclipse/Raptors.
IMOE, the first Eclipse/raptors came from "patternless" Redstripes bred to Trempers. Boldstripes are essentially a more refined variant of jungle. The best way to stabilize complex traits is to line and selectively bred for them...alot of these "new" traits are products of complex recessives, that's why we get such crazy variation