Corona :D

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tebebadra

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i'll help you with the pic and infos.

This gecko shows typical enigma characteristics : normal eyes, white tail, and of course a bit of enigma syndrome. The body of the gecko is lightly peppered with small black spots and it seems to have a very light yellow bold striping on the top side of the body. We are hoping to eliminate the yellow and the spotting to create a cleaner and whiter looking gecko through thorough selective breeding. The first few clutches will hopefully be in late 2011.

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kejapkejap

kejapkejap

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What is the requirements on the leowiki to declare a new morp/ a new line geckos?????
doesn't they doing some test or anything???
 
fuzzylogix

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i'm assuming it would have to be proven to be considered a new morph. i do have to say though that it's a beautiful leo. but im still thinking its a very hypo mack snow enigma.
 
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amnesious

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mikeydoods said:
hi guys .. actually this is my gecko .. and to clarify ..
initially when i made the post in wiki i didnt realize that i had
worded it in such a way that it misled readers to think that i
was declaring a new morph .. IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM I HAD
ANY INTENTION TO DO SO .. so i edited my post ..

and to clarify further it is a hypomelanistic snow enigma ..
if one reads diligently in wiki .. there is no post stating or showing a
hypomelanistic snow enigma .. although this is the case i did not claim
in my post that i created the said morph. i only said that i developed this particular gecko which i TRADEMARKED as CORONA ..

if we pay attention to many of the posts in wiki such as JBRglow ..
Tangerine Tornado .. these are basically trademarks of an existing morph ..
am i correct ??

for those who mock my efforts to bring INDONESIA on the map as a
competent QUALITY GECKO PRODUCING COUNTRY .. i hope you open
your minds to my efforts .. mind you that i am a FILIPINO yet i choose to
bring INDONESIA in the picture ..

for those who support me thanks a bunch and may GOD BLESS YOU AND
YOUR BREEDING .

i hope that i have clarified any issues or troubles leading to this .

again thanks .
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As far as i know, line breed is an effort for years to enhance some characteristic of a morph.. :)
how long you could get this result so you could called it as a line?
how many coronas that you get?show us some more..
don't tell me it's your f1 :D
 
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bob eric

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mikeydoods said:
hi guys .. actually this is my gecko .. and to clarify ..
initially when i made the post in wiki i didnt realize that i had
worded it in such a way that it misled readers to think that i
was declaring a new morph .. IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM I HAD
ANY INTENTION TO DO SO .. so i edited my post ..

and to clarify further it is a hypomelanistic snow enigma ..
if one reads diligently in wiki .. there is no post stating or showing a
hypomelanistic snow enigma .. although this is the case i did not claim
in my post that i created the said morph. i only said that i developed this particular gecko which i TRADEMARKED as CORONA ..

if we pay attention to many of the posts in wiki such as JBRglow ..
Tangerine Tornado .. these are basically trademarks of an existing morph ..
am i correct ??

for those who mock my efforts to bring INDONESIA on the map as a
competent QUALITY GECKO PRODUCING COUNTRY .. i hope you open
your minds to my efforts .. mind you that i am a FILIPINO yet i choose to
bring INDONESIA in the picture ..

for those who support me thanks a bunch and may GOD BLESS YOU AND
YOUR BREEDING .

i hope that i have clarified any issues or troubles leading to this .

again thanks .
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i'am also a filipino..i'am proud of you man and you have a nice LG..
 
ElapidSVT

ElapidSVT

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i'd think 3-6 generations of line breeding to stabilize the traits should be sufficient to create a new morph. a 'morph' is a fixed trait that can be reproduced, a single outcross does not fix any traits and, in all honesty i see nothing special about the animal. enigma patterns aren't possible to stabilize from what i've seen. they are all one-offs and you never know what you'll get.

one breeding = outcross
2+ generations = line breeding
3+ generations = stable line

hope this helps.
good luck!
 
fl_orchidslave

fl_orchidslave

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ElapidSVT said:
"This gecko was developed by MIKEY DOODS GECKOS in INDONESIA from crossing a normal mack snow and a very pale tangerine enigma. "

i'm not sure one cross makes a new morph?
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fuzzylogix said:
i'm assuming it would have to be proven to be considered a new morph. i do have to say though that it's a beautiful leo. but im still thinking its a very hypo mack snow enigma.
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A new morph, no, but a lovely MSE Hypo.

mikeydoods said:
hi guys .. actually this is my gecko .. and to clarify ..
initially when i made the post in wiki i didnt realize that i had
worded it in such a way that it misled readers to think that i
was declaring a new morph .. IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM I HAD
ANY INTENTION TO DO SO .. so i edited my post ..

and to clarify further it is a hypomelanistic snow enigma ..
if one reads diligently in wiki .. there is no post stating or showing a
hypomelanistic snow enigma .. although this is the case, i did not claim
in my post that i created the said morph. i only said that i developed
this particular gecko which i TRADEMARKED as CORONA ..

if we pay attention to many of the posts in wiki such as JBRglow ..
Tangerine Tornado .. these are basically trademarks of an existing morph ..
am i correct ??

for those who mock my efforts to bring INDONESIA on the map as a
competent QUALITY GECKO PRODUCING COUNTRY .. i hope you open
your minds to my efforts .. mind you that i am a FILIPINO yet i choose to
bring INDONESIA in the picture ..

for those who support me thanks a bunch and may GOD BLESS YOU AND
YOUR BREEDING .

i hope that i have clarified any issues or troubles leading to this .

again thanks .
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This type of marketing is misleading and will do you more harm than good in the long run, and possibly the short run. Correct labeling and refining existing morphs will better serve your reputation as a breeder, rather than attempting to "trademark" something highly questionable and unproven. Geography or nationality has nothing to do with this.

mikeydoods said:
line breeding starts with the parents being related closely or not - brother sister, mother
son, father daughter, great grandfather great grand daughter, etc ..
in this definition yes this is line bred .. because this gecko is a result of crossing the grandfather
(mack snow) with the mother of this gecko(a pale tangerine enigma)
(daughter of the grandfather) .. hence line bred .. even if it is an F1 .
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quote from dictionary.com

linebreeding

a form of inbreeding directed toward keeping the offspring closely related to a superior ancestor.

no dictionary states how many generations must be produced to create
a line .
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in geometry a line starts with a point(mother father)
running and leading to a particular direction (a better looking animal).
short as the line may be its still a line.
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for anybody who can refute me on this please by all means do so .
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F1 is only the start of the line. We are not talking about geometry. We're talking about genetics.
 
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