Do all raptors have to have red eyes?

[KaitouCat]

Pretty much what the thread title states. Also curious about other types of raptor suchs as diablo blanco and snow raptors.
I keep seeing things stating that either they do have red eyes, that they can have partial, or that solid red was seen in high quality specimens and it's left me quite confused and a tad worried as I recently purchased some raptor varieties.

 

[DrCarrotTail]

All raptors have eclipse eyes but eclipse can be expressed as a solid red color or a partially solid red color called a "snake eye". They are all albino and lack black pigment so their eyes are lighter in color with red veins but often look almost black as they can be very dark red. I don't own any raptors with snake eyes but this is a picture of a Rainwater albino with eclipse snake eyes (AKA typhoon). Technically his eyes are "red" but they are a darker color than that of most raptors.

 

[KaitouCat]

Oh well when I heard red or partial red, I assumed they were literally part red like the red my SN boy which none of them seem to have.
By the way, here they are.


Blood Raptor


Biablo blanco


Raptor


Super Nova [what I expected raptor eyes to look like]


Mack snow raptor

 

[tb144050]

Except for the last pic, they are all definitely eclipse. The first ones are "snake-eye" variation. Then there is the solid Eclipse eye. The last one might be "snake-eye" but I can't say for sure because the darkest part is so round, that I wonder if it is "normal albino"..??

 

[KaitouCat]

Here's another one of the snow raptor.




If it did turn out to be a regular albino I'd be quite mad but I guess there wouldn't be much that could be done except for try and ask if I could return her.

 

[stager]

Yea solid is usually more sought after, but it is possible for partial eyes to produce solid eyes. Me personal have to say breeding solid to solid odds are way better out of I believe 12 raptors last season only one had snake eyes the rest solid. In general solid goes for more money but I've seen a few breeders get good money for snake eyes. I only breed solid eye raptors but some like snake eyes better. Also I find the female seems to carry the gene more than the male anyone else have any thoughts on that?

 

[A&S Reptiles]

I personally like solid eyes. I have no partials so I can't help you with that mack raptor. But my raptors are so red they almost seem black.

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[tb144050]

Here's another one of the snow raptor.
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If it did turn out to be a regular albino I'd be quite mad but I guess there wouldn't be much that could be done except for try and ask if I could return her.

Is this the same Leo that is in the last pic? This pic is definitely "Eclipse-Snake eyes" because of the solid area at the corner of the eye towards the nose.

I wasn't sure about the last pic (that I said might just be albino) because I can't tell from the photo. I am an amateur and I don't know what the "shutters" that go side-to-side are called. But if ANY part of the shutters are blackened, then it is snake-eyes.

In your pic, I can't tell if it is black pupil with brown "shutters" that are opened wide..... or ....is it brown "shutters" mostly closed (together) with a perfectly-symmetrically-round "snake-eyes" darkening on the center of both shutters.
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Edit: I went back and started comparing head-markings and I now see that they are both pics of the Leo in question. So yeah...the Leo I wasn't sure about earlier IS "Eclipse/Snake-eyes".

In the pic I wasn't sure about, the "shutters" were open in dimmer lighting (showing alot of dark pupil). Then in the next pic you posted, your Leo had closed its "shutters" in reaction to the camera's flash from the previous picture....and on the closed shutters, you can see the dark spot.

 

[KaitouCat]

Actually the first picture was with flash and the second was without. I just brought her near the window for a better shot. Thanks for all the help everyone.
Now if only other sites and such would be a bit more in depth about the eye thing on some morphs rather than do, can, or etc.
Also random bonus video of this girl.~

 

[DrCarrotTail]

They all look like eclipses to me so if they are also Tremper albinos they would be called Raptors. Pretty groups and nice eye pictures!

 

[tb144050]

Actually the first picture was with flash and the second was without.

^^lol...That's what I meant when I said:

.......Then in the next pic you posted, your Leo had closed its "shutters" in reaction to the camera's flash from the previous picture....and on the closed shutters, you can see the dark spot.

Basically you caught your Leo with the "shutters" wide open, but the flash from pic1 was so bright that she closed the "shutters." Then you took the pic2 with no flash, but the shutters were closed, revealing the snake-eyes.

Also, SaSobek is working on putting together his "eye-trait" write-up with alot of pictures. He said maybe in a couple weeks he might have time to get it finished.