Eclipse Recessive???

[Okee Reps]

Ok, years have gone by and tons of breeding has occurred. Are we any closer to determining what the "eclipse" trait is?

 

[syntheticreality]

as far as i know, it's recessive

 

[Nigel4less]

Simple Recessive.

 

[Okee Reps]

I don't know about that. It does weird things plus I recently hatched out a snake eyed eclipse with only one parent carrying the trait.

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

It acts as a recessive, but not the "simple" type. IMO it is part of a "complex" of cooperating recessive genes. This includes all of the patterning traits.

Each "new" pattern that has been produced over the years, is more or less the "super" form. Stripes came from Jungles, Reverse Stripes came from Jungles/Stripes. "Patternless Stripe/Designers" came from Stripe/Reverse Stripe lines, and Eclipse comes from the "Patternless Stripe"/Reverse Stripe types.

That is my guess why pretty much all of the Aptors, het Aptors, and even "Patternless Stripes"(the ones not related to any R/Aptors***) prove out to be "hets". The patterning is what is responsible, not a single gene.

*** "Patternless Stripes"(as Alberto named them) came from Red Stripe X Reverse Stripe Albino, and were not related to any R/Aptors. They looked like non-Albino Aptors, and sure enough Alberto`s, and the ones I produced here around the same time, proved to be "hets".

 

[syntheticreality]

very interesting information! Thank you for the enlightenment. I definitely had no idea.

 

[spykerherps]

:vulcan: If you didn't notice the eyebrow up ~ Hmmm.

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

and I also noticed the pointy ears.

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

Just thought I should ad this. Co-recessive means, when two or more recessive genes exist polygenically. Traits that are determined by a series of gene pairs are refered to as polygenic.

Nothing to do with Leopards but there are some good genetics definitions, on this site. http://www.geocities.com/chinbin.geo/chingenetics.html

 

[boutiquegecko]

Has anyone proven if it's the same or different than the blizzard solid eyes?

 

[Okee Reps]

Has anyone proven if it's the same or different than the blizzard solid eyes?

Yea I think I remember a forum member proving that they were different. But I still don't understand how I can randomly pop out eclipse eyes in pairings where to my knowledge only one parent is carrying the trait.