Enigma Help

[shiftylou]

Was my birthday on sunday and was bought a red eye enigma after looking for 1 for a long time! Was wondering what to breed her with in a few months time after getting her to a nice weight?
What would each outcome be if I bred her with the following males?

Tremper Albino
Super Snow
Murphys Patternless
Bell Albino

If none of the above would give a nice outcome what would you suggest?

I also am not sure at what type of enigma she is weather that be a bell enigma etc.

 

[R.E.F]

Red Eyed Enigma is a bell albino enigma, so it is a bell albino strain.

I can only tell you about when you pair her with a Mack super snow:
There is chances for mack snow enigma, enigma het bell albino, mack snow het bell albino, and a very little chance for mack snow bell albino enigma.

 

[eric]

Lets start from the bottom up, yes! She looks to be a Bell Enigma. You need to double check with the breeder you purchased her from to make sure and if she's het for something.

Okay, say she is a Bell Enigma which I'm almost positive she is, (But with Enigmas you never know), and she's not het for anything. Your best non het pairing would be the Bell albino or a bold stripe Bell. That would give you Bell Enigmas and Bells. It's 50/50, 50% Enigma offspring to 50% Bell Albino offspring, But remember its all a game of chance, Just because you have eight eggs doesn't mean that four are Enigmas and the other four are Bell Albinos. The percentages are based out of 100 geckos hatched. You may hatch out all Bell Enigmas or all Bell Albinos or a combination of both. Its all a genetic lottery! But with this pairing ( Bell Enigma X Bell Albino) all offspring will be at least Bell Albinos.

The Murphy Patternless x Bell Enigma would give you all Normal offspring het for Bell Albino and Murphy patternless, and again, in theory 50% would be Enigmas. I don't recommend this pairing unless you have a project that would utilize the double hets.

The Super Snow x Bell Enigma would give you Mack snows het for Bell Albino and (50% Enigma offspring) Mack snow Enigmas het for Bell Albino. This would be a great project, breed a Mack snow het Bell Male offspring back to Mom next season for a chance at a Mack Snow Bell Enigma,Or a Mack snow Enigma het bell Female offspring back to the father Super snow for a chance at a Mack Snow Bell Enigma or Mack super snow Bell Enigma.

The Tremper Albino x Bell Enigma would give you all normal offspring het for Bell albino and Tremper albino. The offspring have the 50% chance of being Enigma. You would be creating offspring that carry the two strains of albinism. This IMHO is pointless, you came up with some really great morphs, I would pursue the Bell bold stripe or the Mack Super Snow for your Enigma female.But if your female is het something this all could change. Best of luck!

 

[shiftylou]

Thanks!! will any of the above give me red eyes? for example the 50% enigma's will they carry the red eye gene in them?

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Thanks!! will any of the above give me red eyes? for example the 50% enigma's will they carry the red eye gene in them?

Bell Enigma x Bell Albino will give you a 50% chance of more "Red Eyed" Enigmas, yes! :main_yes:

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

The Murphy Patternless x Bell Enigma would give you all Normal offspring het for Bell Albino and Murphy patternless, and again, in theory 50% would be Enigmas. I don't recommend this pairing unless you have a project that would utilize the double hets.

To the contrary, I think an eventual Patternless Bell Enigma may look kinda cool. :main_yes:

But I think the biggest problem with breading any Murphys Patternless to anything else, is most of them are het for some albino strain. Most commonly that's either Tremper or LasVegas albino. So if you're certain that there's not another albino strain mixed in there, then no problem. If you're uncertain though, it's probably not worth taking the chance. Purely my opinion.

 

[shiftylou]

would breeding with my mack super snow give me any red eyes?

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Nope, not unless the Super Snow is het for Bell Albino. :main_no:

 

[shiftylou]

darn would of loved to keep the red eyes in some of the babies!

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Oh, you can breed the Super Snow to the Bell Enigma, but it will take you two breeding seasons to get Mack Snow Bell Enigma or Super Snow Bell Enigma offspring. In the second season, you'd have to breed the first season offspring. Then you'd get the Red Eyes.