First Attempt at Genetics...

[Kotsay1414]

Okay guys, I got a male who is Het Raptor and a normal female. If I breed the two together, I will have a 50% chance of the offspring being Het Raptor correct? Then when I breed the offspring back to the Het Raptor, there will be a 25% chance I will get a Raptor, 50% chance I will get Het Raptor, and 25% chance of normals?

Thanks!

Kyle

 

[npsk8ter]

sounds right but if you wanna learn more pick up Ron Trempers book! Its like a leopard gecko bible! seriously. just got it and it the best one wrote!

 

[MackSnow]

I'm not sure you can get 25% Raptors. Of course Raptor is recessive, but it's made out of more then just one gene. So you might get less pure Raptors like you get with het Blazing Blizzards. There you also just have 6.75% Blazing Blizzards. Maybe you got more with het Raptors. I don't know. Ron Tremper must know this. He paired them much more often than anyone else
Another thing to think about is, you don't know which one from your offspring is het and which is normal. So you must breed all of your hatchlings to their father. So half of the offspring will make no Raptors, what would decrease your raptors another 50%, so you would get less then 12.5% Raptors by pairing the fathers offspring back to him...
Does anybody here know more about the percentage of these pairings from his own breeder groups?

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Read up on RAPTORS in these two threads:

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=3477
http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=2922

"het RAPTOR" is not a simple recessive.

 

[Kotsay1414]

Read up on RAPTORS in these two threads:

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=3477
http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=2922

"het RAPTOR" is not a simple recessive.

Based off of what I read, RAPTOR is made up of 3 different recessive genes, Ruby Red Eye, Tremper Albino, and Patternless.

I did the Punent Squares and I came up with Gen1...
12.5% Chance Normal Het RAPTOR
12.5% Chance Pure Normal
12.5% Chance Normal Het Patternless
12.5 % Chance Normal Het Patternless Tremper
12.5% Chance Normal Het Ruby Eye Tremper
12.5% Chance Normal Het Ruby Eye
12.5% Chance Normal Het Ruby Eye Patternless
12.5% Chance Normal Het Tremper

After Gen 1 is done and is in breeding condition, I will have to breed the offspring back to the Het RAPTOR Father to prove what each offspring is?

Also, if I'm selling Gen 1 Babies, without proving what they are, what would is be advertised as? "HET ?"

Thanks guys!

 

[Jeanne]

and Patternless.

The "Patternless" is not an actual Patternless, it is a Patternless Red Stripe, which is from breeding a Red Stripe to a Reverse Stripe. They kind of cancel each other out to make a Patternless Red Stripe

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

Based off of what I read, RAPTOR is made up of 3 different recessive genes, Ruby Red Eye, Tremper Albino, and Patternless.

Not exactly. Here lies the problem...

The Patternless involved has proven not recessive. Dan has produced the Patternless found in RAPTORs by breeding Red Stripes I believe. Tremper Albino is proven recessive, Eclipse is still iffy. No one can say 100%.

After Gen 1 is done and is in breeding condition, I will have to breed the offspring back to the Het RAPTOR Father to prove what each offspring is?

Also, if I'm selling Gen 1 Babies, without proving what they are, what would is be advertised as? "HET ?"

Recessive x Normal = Normals het Recessive
het Recessive x Normal = Normals 50% possible het Recessive
het Recessive x het Recessive = Normals 66% possible het Recessive & Recessive

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

The Patternless involved has proven not recessive. Dan has produced the Patternless found in RAPTORs by breeding Red Stripes I believe. Tremper Albino is proven recessive, Eclipse is still iffy. No one can say 100%.

Excellent point, Stephanie. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the APTOR and RAPTOR are morph names marketed by Ron Tremper, and they are the results of mixing a 'cocktail' of recessive and non-recessive morph genes. The jury is still out on the eclipse eye theory.