Fishy advices ... are they right??

stinky

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You guys are GREAT!!

I get so many "fishy" advice, and I just have to verify them first!! :main_thumbsup:

I'm thinking of crossing a tremper engima (TE) with a sunglow (SG). some "interesting" advices I got:

Advice 1 : "Get a SG male x TE female ... the color genes pass on better from male to offsprings."

I always thought it does not matter which is male or female. The Morph Calculators alway have a column for Male & Female. But the results are the same.

Is the advice valid?


Advice 2 : "Put 2 males together. The dominent male will have stronger genes based on survival of the fittest. E.g. Male color & morph will pass on better with the dominent male."

Does dominence = strong genes???


Advice 3 : "If there is a very strong colored SG, buy the less strong colored siblings for cheaper price. After all, they are from the same parents and carry the same genes."

Note that they are talking about COLOR only.


Advice 4 : "Don't cross an Enigma with another Enigma. A Enigma (2 copy) is double as "crazy" as a Enigma (1 copy)!!"


Advice 5 : "To reduce the special behaviour of the Enigma, get the most dominent mate. The "strong" normal genes will reduce the "weaker" Enigma genes. Thus, the offsprings will act more normal."


Please help me to verify if is any truth to the above statements.

Thanks in advance!!
 

Baoh

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Advice 1 : "Get a SG male x TE female ... the color genes pass on better from male to offsprings."

Is the advice valid?

Advice 2 : "Put 2 males together. The dominent male will have stronger genes based on survival of the fittest. E.g. Male color & morph will pass on better with the dominent male."

Does dominence = strong genes???

Advice 3 : "If there is a very strong colored SG, buy the less strong colored siblings for cheaper price. After all, they are from the same parents and carry the same genes."

Note that they are talking about COLOR only.

Advice 4 : "Don't cross an Enigma with another Enigma. A Enigma (2 copy) is double as "crazy" as a Enigma (1 copy)!!"

Advice 5 : "To reduce the special behaviour of the Enigma, get the most dominent mate. The "strong" normal genes will reduce the "weaker" Enigma genes. Thus, the offsprings will act more normal."

1) Invalid.

2) Invalid as far as the context goes. While better genes for physical robustness and aggression could lead to a behaviorally dominant gecko, those genes would have no association with genes coding for traits related to morph and color (or even sex with regard to passing any traits on to offspring). That advice is a great recipe for beating up your males, though.

3) Partially true, but not guaranteed at all. First of all, it would depend upon what the parents were to determine if the siblings truly have a very similar genetic stew. Second to that, you tend to have a better chance of getting better visually expressed results from animals with enhanced visually expressed characteristics. Many of us have a female that has almost no carrot tail that throws offspring that have nearly full carrot tails or something analogous, but those are exceptions. Not rules. More often than not, you will get the best from the best and severely reduced probabilities from also-rans. It can happen. It's just not "the same" as your contact might imply.

4) That remains to be seen and I'd love to see evidence either way. Stating it as fact before that evidence is presented is irresponsible.

5) There is nothing to indicate this.

After all of that, it would not surprise me if that sort of person would tell you some fable like leos needing sand to digest prey. Har har har.
 

stinky

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Thanks for your quick reply.

I thought so. Many of these sounds "interesting" from the start. Many of these "tips" were from small scale home breeders, who found "success" using these rules.

Being new in this hobby, it is still a bit difficult to seperate the fact from fiction!!

Thanks!!!
 

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