Um, the male is the first gecko I hatched out ever. When I am back at davids moms sometime I can look on my mirror covered in hatchling tags and try to find out that info for you. They were all laid in '06 since 07 was my second breeding year. I put animals together ~ april, and I want to wager a guess and say august-ish? If you really wanted to, you could search through the threads I started on pangea, and I probably have a "my first gargoyle" hatchling one.