Gecko ID

[azgeckoguy4288]

I picked these two females up for free yesterday. Not sure what they are anyone want to take a shot

 

[im faster]

shtct

 

[azgeckoguy4288]

whats the value on something like that

 

[richardrojas]

Depending on the breeder and quality of the animal. They sometimes start at $45 but can go to $150 or more.

 

[azgeckoguy4288]

are these of pretty good quality and if i breed them to my tangerine will i get more shtct

 

[im faster]

possibly.. but they dont look large enough to start breeding..

 

[lillith]

Leos are no get-rich-quick scheme; you'll be very very lucky to just break even.

Your male is hypo, barely. If you get any super hypo carrot tails, you'll be supremely lucky. You will probably not get baldies, like these two (no spots on the head).

As far as most pet stores are concerned, hypo tangerines are nearly as common as high yellows and normals.

I wish you luck, but I think you need to spend more time reading up on the genetics involved of what you have. If you're buying them from pet stores you have no idea what hets are involved, and no one will buy the offspring. You could read up on that, and breeding husbandry while these girls are in quarantine. You do have them in quarantine, yes?

 

[azgeckoguy4288]

yes they are in quarantine they are too small to breed. i didn't buy them from a pet store they were given to me for free. as for you slander towards my inability to identify them and to what my male is well you know where im going with this. my male is by no means a hypo he is covered in black spots. maybe you yourself should read up on genetics and find that hypo is a reduction in black on the body of the animal. maybe i should post a picture of him again to show you he is not a hypo. i contacted the guy who i bought him from and got the paper trail behind his genes and he is for sure a tang. now back to my ability to breed leopard geckos. i am working hand in hand with a breeder here who is very well known in the hobby. he will be buying my geckos as they hatch. also my tang came from a clutch he hatched him self. im not trying to get rich quick here dude. im just trying to have fun. but its people like you in the hobby that ruin it for people like me. unless you have a degree in herpetology your not perfect either.

 

[Adirondackgeckos]

Oh here we go!

 

[richardrojas]

Sorry if this sounds rude but if you are working hand to hand with a well known breeder, Why are you asking about the morph of these 2 when they are so easy to identify? Again sorry if you feel that I am attacking you but Janice was just trying to help about things we need to learn before breeding. I spent almost 2 years reading about leopard geckos since I am from Puerto Rico and they are illegal there. When I moved to Wisconsin I bought my first one 2 years ago and start breeding last year. The good thing is that because of people like Janice, I learn the ethics of being a good breeder and like people from GF I still learning a lot everyday.

 

[lillith]

I wasn't trying to be rude, but look at it from my perspective:
You come on here asking lots of questions, seem to have obtained a lot of geckos and started breeding right away without knowing what you're doing. I respect that you have bred snakes, I know nothing about the morphs of snakes, although I appreciate their beauty.

I do understand the enthusiasm, but like every other market out there, the leo market crashed last year. My words may not be fluffy and squishy enough to your liking, but my motivation is to spare you the struggle of creating more leos than you can find places for.

I spent 2 years reading up on genetics and morphs and another 2 procuring geckos that I want. I have bred for 3 seasons now, and I know that makes me a sophomore breeder. I intend to stick with this for a long time and I intentionally am getting into projects slowly so that I do not outpace myself. If I had not taken the time to look into it more first, I may have drowned in too many geckos without knowing what to do with them. I am glad you have someone who says you can sell back to, but that doesn't always turn out as planned.

You can take my words as advice, or not. It's up to you.
But they most certainly are not slanderous.

If you keep asking questions but don't like the answers you are getting, either change the questions or listen to what people have to share respectfully.

Most of the answers to your questions are in various threads over the past several years, you do need to spend some time to look for them, but they are there.

I do wish you luck in your projects. Good day to you.

 

[Jordan]

my male is by no means a hypo he is covered in black spots.
maybe you yourself should read up on genetics and find that hypo is a reduction in black on the body of the animal. maybe i should post a picture of him again to show you he is not a hypo.

yeaahhh... hypo's DO have black spots on them. Super hypos are the gecko with no spots.

i contacted the guy who i bought him from and got the paper trail behind his genes and he is for sure a tang.

You don't need a paper trail to identify a gecko as a tangerine... you just simply look at it.
Tangerine is a polygenic trait, you can look back at the recessive and dominant gene's carried by the fathers and grandfathers and it doesn't make a difference.

now back to my ability to breed leopard geckos. i am working hand in hand with a breeder here who is very well known in the hobby. he will be buying my geckos as they hatch. also my tang came from a clutch he hatched him self. im not trying to get rich quick here dude. im just trying to have fun. but its people like you in the hobby that ruin it for people like me. unless you have a degree in herpetology your not perfect either.

Its people like this in the hobby that are being respoinsible and trying to stop people like you from entering breeding too quickly and with a sever lack of knowledge, like you have.

Your recent threads, in fact pretty much all of your threads prove to everyone that you have not gained enough knowledge of leopard gecko's to breed them.

Please listen to what lilith has said.


PS, when you asked 'are these gecko's pretty good quality' the answer is no, that's why you got them for free.

 

[Russ S]

whats the value on something like that

im not trying to get rich quick here dude.

The first quote could cause some to assume that you are.
Try not to be so defensive and you might just learn a few things here, as well as make some friends.
Good luck.

 

[azgeckoguy4288]

lilith i do appreciate all the advice that you have provided. i know that i can tend to be a bit defensive at times but cut a guy a break. yes i was very quick to jump to breeding but i have confidence in my ability to do so. i currently have 3 gravid females and am expecting them any day now. i do not intend to get rich on these guys. i love the beauty and the attitude of leos but i have an addictive personality and when i do something i go big. as to jordan and russ the reason that i ask the quality and the value of these females is only to know what i can sell the offspring for. i do not intend to sell any lizard that i am currently producing for over 25 dollars. i also intend to keep several of them for my own question. though some of you make take me for a complete fool, your wrong. not one of you can sit here and tell me that you were never new to this. i have done a tone of extensive reading and feel comfortable in my ability to breed. though i may not be the most knowledgeable about morphs yet i do consider my self up to date on care and breeding. not to mention that i do not have that of any "cool" things to breed to make morphs. talk your stuff and think what you might but if you took the time to get to know a dude and talk to me you would find that i am a pretty cool and fun guy. if you dont like me thats your problem. and for a final note. for those of you that think that the welfare of my leos is in danger you are wrong. i take darn good care of all of them and would never sacrifice their well being to make money. i dont need to get rich quick. i have a job and i have plenty of money. at the moment i am starting out cheap to see if i can prove myself. thank you and good day

 

[im faster]

I think what everyone is saying .. is if your starting to breed you should know the answers to the basic questions before you start...

you wouldnt jump out of a airplane and on the way down ask somebody... how you open your parachute

 

[Jordan]

though i may not be the most knowledgeable about morphs yet i do consider my self up to date on care and breeding.

talk your stuff and think what you might but if you took the time to get to know a dude and talk to me you would find that i am a pretty cool and fun guy. if you dont like me thats your problem.

Knowing all there is about morphs is quite an essential part of breeding. So when you consider yourself up to date on care and breeding then without knowing a decent understanding of morphs im afraid to say your not.
Not knowing morphs will cause you to put together leo's which will just create genetic messes, or mutts as they're often called. Which means you'll sell them on not knowing fully about them, and they will be out there where you can't control what happens to them. Also, it will cause you to post more threads on here asking what they are etc...

Being cool and a fun guy doesn't really come in to the equation, you still need to know the stuff and that's what why we are suggesting you learn a bit more about the morphs before you breed.
Its not that we don't like you, its that we really like leopard gecko's, and want the best for them.

you wouldnt jump out of a airplane and on the way down ask somebody... how you open your parachute

Lol, great example.