Gem Snows? Any recent updates???

[PacHerp]

Just curious if anyone has any updates about Gem Snows? I've read through some threads about them, but most of them are 6 months or older. Has anyone produced a super version?

What about breeding them to various albinos? do they look any different than when breeding a mack snow to an albino?

also, has anyone crossed them to a hypo gene?

I'm just curious as to the progress with these little guys.

I'd also be interested to know who all is working with them too!

Any comments would be appreciated!

 

[yellermelon]

I am doing all of this plus more...this season. my first two gem x BB are due to hatch in a few weeks. My Gem X RAPTOR eggs, the female didnt lay them..kind of confused me actually. And I have a few other crosses. I do know there are at least 4 others working with them. I am also very interested in where the gems are headed. Also dont understand why no one else has done many crosses with them.

 

[PacHerp]

hey cool... I'll be looking forward to your projects!

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

Gem Snows have made Super Snows when bred to Macks. There have been some Hypo ones produced, and some Tremper Albino ones. The "Gem" Snow Albinos are pretty nice too!

 

[PacHerp]

anyone else have any thoughts???

 

[805GECKOS]

hey whats the diffrence between a gem and a mack if any one can tell me or tell me were i can find out thanks

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

Hey Brittney, that female that I have showed you before was a Gem Snow male crossed with a SHTCTB, so they turn out nice with that cross.

805Geckos-Gem Snows and Macks are very similiar except you can't (atleast so far) breed a Gem X Gem and get a super like you can with the Macks, but you can breed a Gem X Mack and make supers.

 

[liljenn]

I am very interested in this project, too! So, if you cross Gem x Gem = Gem? or a combination of something? Is it a co-dom? How about Gem x bold jungle (or bold stripe)?

Sorry for all the questions, I am new at all this! I am looking forward to seeing the results from yours, Chris!

 

[sushikam]

I thought I would bring this thread back up, as I am curious where the gems are going too. I have one as of right now, and will be receiving my second one soon. I can't wait to start breeding them next year, but I am curious to find more information about them now.

Chris, have your eggs hatched yet? If so I would love to see them!

I am very excited to be getting a chance to work with these and can't wait to see where they go next! And hopefully we can start getting more information about them out and about and not have it seem so limited, as I am always having a hard time finding any info on them.

 

[yellermelon]

I got eggs from the RAPTOR finally the het BB is due to hatch,...any moment lol. I check on it ever day..sometimes twice Ill be sure to post pics..hope for a gem BTW I seen Reptiliangems was on here earlier today. Would be cool to see what hes working with. Have a few other gem eggs incubating just not very close to hatching.

 

[sushikam]

Now I can't wait for yours to hatch ! I was hoping reptiliangems would maybe chime in here, I'd love to see what he has now. And also, if you know, is his site not working? I have tried getting on it several times and it leads me to a links page, not a gecko page.

 

[Ccrashca069]

I noticed Shaun had one for sale earlier.

 

[sushikam]

I noticed Shaun had one for sale earlier.

Yea, I bought him :main_thumbsup: ! The one I currently have is from him also.

 

[Ccrashca069]

Cool

 

[GekkoGek]

I bought 1.2 from Kelli last december. Two adult female hypo and one (very big) normal male. They haven't bred yet, but I can already see the egss in her belly.. so it can happen any day now.
I think this trait is dominant, you either have it or not. Well that's my guess untill someone breeds a super from Gem x Gem.
Linebreeding them will produce even nicer snows in the future.

Greetings,

Job

 

[bro paul]

We should produce some Tremper Gem Snows later this season. We've got a lot of other odd crosses but no really exciting projects with them...should have some giants...already have hypos (which are prettier than the mack hypos in my opinion). The reason there hasn't been a ton of interest in these is because they work similar to the mack snows...which are now readily available. As said earlier, bred together Gems snow do not produce a super form, but when crossed with Macks they do produce "super snows". The same thing occurred with "line bred" snows. Of course, all of this is "old news". I've done enough Gem to Gem breedings to convince myself that there is not a super form...although they do appear "whiter". They are very attractive geckos, in my opinion, so I plan to keep crossing them here and there until I land on a project I'm excited about...

Here's one of our hold back males from last season

 

[liljenn]

I, too, am very interested in the Gems. Chris, what is Reptilian Gems User ID? I've tried to contact him too about his website & haven't received a message back.

On a previous post I found by him in Oct 2007, he said hadn't proven his snows to be dominant or even incomplete dominant. He gave some great examples of Co-dom, Incomp. Dom, & simple Dom. I am still trying to get my mind around all the genetic stuff and how it translates into breeding the different morphs:main_rolleyes: .

Anyway, from what Paul was just saying, it sounds like they are Incomplete Dominant, where as the Mack line is Co-Dominant. Because the the Gems seem to "blend" more with the crossed morph. But thats IMO - and I am a newbie so what do I know!

 

[sushikam]

We should produce some Tremper Gem Snows later this season. We've got a lot of other odd crosses but no really exciting projects with them...should have some giants...already have hypos (which are prettier than the mack hypos in my opinion). The reason there hasn't been a ton of interest in these is because they work similar to the mack snows...which are now readily available. As said earlier, bred together Gems snow do not produce a super form, but when crossed with Macks they do produce "super snows". The same thing occurred with "line bred" snows. Of course, all of this is "old news". I've done enough Gem to Gem breedings to convince myself that there is not a super form...although they do appear "whiter". They are very attractive geckos, in my opinion, so I plan to keep crossing them here and there until I land on a project I'm excited about...

I was reading that it's possible that the gems are nothing more than a mack snow. Is this true, or are they just slightly different? I am horrible with genetics, right now anyway, so I hope to learn as much about them as I can. I figure they are different to work with, and I like the way they look too, so I am still excited to be working with them.

 

[ByRandom]

In my opinion, Gem snows are not Mack snows, just for the fact that Gem x Gem does not result in a "Super Snow" animal.

 

[liljenn]

I had read on www.leopardgeckowiki.com that there are different lines of the "Snow Morph" that each began from a wild type that was line breed by the specific breeder and named (i.e. Mack, Gem, Urban, Albey line). The only line that creates a "Super" form is the Mack Snow. And when the Mack Snow is crossed with any other Snow line, it creates a "Super Snow". This is what makes me think that the only true "co-dom" snow is the Mack and the rest are incomplete dominant. Am I using these term correctly (co-dom, incomp. dom, simple dom)??? :main_huh:

Still a newbie at all this but reading a lot and could be getting very confused!!:main_rolleyes:
Someone correct me, if I am wrong!!!