Help deciding between two different groups?

[Treefolk]

I'm fairly new to breeding and want to start with either 1.2 or 1.3. Both groups have potential growth into different morphs and both have really appealing attributes.

First group:

Male:
RAPTOR

Females:
Dreamsicle can produce: Dreamsicle, Mack Snow RAPTOR, NOVA, RAPTOR. That's a lot of different cool morphs out of two geckos.
Super Nova can produce: Dreamsicle, Mack Snow RAPTOR. Redundant, but the Super Nova can then be crossed with a Dreamsicle or Mack Snow RAPTOR to also create Super RAPTORS.

Second group:

Male:
Tangerine Tornado

Females:
Rainwater Albino can produce: Firewater (when back crossed or siblings mated).
Tremper Albino can produce: Sunglow (when back crossed or siblings mated).
Enigma can produce: Tangerine Enigma, which would then be crossed with Sunglow to produce Sunglow Enigma.

So, which group would you personally choose? I realize its up to me ultimately and which one I like best, but others opinions help me make decisions. Please let me know if any of my morph math is off or I have overlooked something.

I realize that it will take generations of work to make different morphs and especially ones that I like the most, but that's the fun of it all.

Also, please no lectures about if I should breed or all the warnings about breeding. I know all of it, I have bred before and frankly am sick of being told it over and over again on different forums. I get/know it.

Thank you for your help :ears:

 

[Newworlddragons]

Get both you will end up getting both eventually anyway....just guessing lol but also I like the bit about not lecturing.

 

[DrCarrotTail]

Personally I would not include two separate types of albino in the same group unless you're introducing them to the male and keeping them in separate containers to lay. There's too much potential for mixing up eggs and not being able to tell which egg came from which female (case in point, my two sunglows were furiously digging away together this morning and will both probably lay while I'm at work today). Also, I would want serious records on the Tangerine male or I would want to spend a year or two proving him out before pairing him with any albino as hidden hets can come back to haunt you.

 

[TWreptiles]

and if you are a beginner i wouldn't recommend the enigma gene as even the healthiest enigmas can be triggered into showing signs of ES by many things

 

[Treefolk]

Can you guys not read? I don't want any lectures. Take the negativity somewhere else.

 

[SC Geckos]

Removed.

 

[Newworlddragons]

The different albino females shouldn't be a problem just don't mix up your eggs you should be keeping good records anyway.

 

[RampantReptiles]

Both group contain enigmas so that argument is a moot point.

Its all about what you like. Do you want White geckos with red eyes or Orange geckos?

Personally I like snows.
I also think you are better off sticking to one albino strain with a small group. In the long run it makes record keeping easier and if you continue to breed following seasons you will have more options for breeding your offspring back to siblings or parents.

 

[Treefolk]

The last two comments were not negative or "lectures"...... they were simply opinions on why they would not choose your second group option.

That was the question right? They were just trying to help you.
You may not want to ask the question if you only want certain responses.

I also would not recommend the second group but I will leave it at that.

I could argue my point, but I don't see that it would accomplish anything. I posted a polite prerequisite and then felt people violated it. Every post below yours is fine with me.

 

[getgeckos]

I would go with the first grouping. I am partial to snows and the outcomes of that breeding group