Help ID please

[clockwurk]

I just got her today. I'm fairly new at this, and have some ideas. But I'm sure someone can tell me for sure. Thanks in advance!

Close up of the eye...

 

[Taquiq]

I would say a Tremper Hybino.

 

[gixxer3420]

Aptor

 

[clockwurk]

Taquiq, is a Tremper Hybino and a Tremper Sunglow the same?

Gixxer3420. I dont know much about Aptors, but doesn't an Aptor have to have Red slits in the eyes?

 

[roger]

Taquiq, is a Tremper Hybino and a Tremper Sunglow the same?

Gixxer3420. I dont know much about Aptors, but doesn't an Aptor have to have Red slits in the eyes?

most hybinos are also called sunglows.

 

[gixxer3420]

No aptors do not. All my aptors look pretty much like your gecko. Now my sun-glos look nothing like your geckos. Sunglos are more clean and brighter in color.

 

[Taquiq]

Technically no, Hybinos are not Sunglows. A Hybino is a (Super) Hypo Albino and a Sunglow is a SHTCT Albino.

 

[clockwurk]

Just wondering, could she be a Bell? The reason I ask is her eyes looks just like the ones here here

http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/index.php?title=Bell_Albino

 

[Sunnyx3]

Tremper or rainwater

 

[Jordan]

looks like an APTOR to me, it looks like it has came from a raptor line or pairing, but just came out not homozygous for eclipse. If i were you i would test it to see if it is het eclipse, most APTORS are because they come from trying to make raptors.

 

[clockwurk]

Jordan, sorry, how would I test if its het eclipse?

Man, I'm more confused than ever lol.

 

[Jordan]

Haha, no worries. I'll explain, Raptors are Tremper albino's with the eclipse gene, and also certain polygenic traits but well ignore that for now.
And aptors are raptors but without the eclipse trait.
And most aptors come from pairings that are trying to make raptors, E.g raptor x tremper het eclipse, or tremper het eclipse x tremper het eclipse.
And so Aptors that come out of those pairings have a very high chance of being Het for eclipse. And thats why its best to test them.

To test if he was het eclipse, what you would have to do is, breed it to a gecko that is defnitely homozygous for eclipse. E.g a raptor, or an actual pure eclipse.

By doing this pairing, Your Aptor x Raptor, If ANY raptors come from that pairing then your gecko MUST be het eclipse.

Its tough to explain and tough to understand, so if you dont understand be honest and say cuz ive got a better way of showing you lol.

 

[clockwurk]

oops, double post. IGNORE.

 

[clockwurk]

lol, ok...i dont understand.
lol why lie?

 

[IslaReina]

Technically no, Hybinos are not Sunglows. A Hybino is a (Super) Hypo Albino and a Sunglow is a SHTCT Albino.

Sorry to creep on your post, but Taquiq, does that mean that the only difference between a Hybino and a Sunglow is the carrot tail?

Your gecko is adorable btw

 

[Jordan]

lol, ok...i dont understand.
lol why lie?

what..? who's lying? lol.
no one is lying, but someone selling an aptor het eclipse, might not bother saying het eclipse, if the person buying it is just buying it for a pet. Even though i suppose they should.
But who do you mean is lying? lol

 

[clockwurk]

what..? who's lying? lol.
no one is lying, but someone selling an aptor het eclipse, might not bother saying het eclipse, if the person buying it is just buying it for a pet. Even though i suppose they should.
But who do you mean is lying? lol

Oh no, I mean, why lie as in why should I lie about pretending that I understand. I clearly don't have a clue.

Any help with helping me understand how the genetic stuff works would be great!

 

[Insubordinate]

I have a female that looks exactly like yours (really really close)! I was told she is an aptor.

 

[Jordan]

Oh no, I mean, why lie as in why should I lie about pretending that I understand. I clearly don't have a clue.

Any help with helping me understand how the genetic stuff works would be great!

oh right lol. sorry.

Erm, okay.

Right there are two traits were talking about here and the names are making it confusing so from now on im gonna call tremper albino trait no. 1, eclipse no. 2.
What raptor is, is when the gecko displays both 1 and 2.
what aptor is, is when the gecko displays just 1.

Right so say someone is trying to breed for a raptor.
and so they have a gecko which is a raptor (1+2), and a gecko that is 1 het 2,
So from this pairing (1+2) x (1 het 2) = there will be 50% (1+2) babies and 50% (1 het 2) ...

the 1 het 2 babies are Aptors. but they are also het eclipse. (no. 2)

theres a high chance that your aptor came from a pairing like above (or a pairing similar) and so there's a high chance your aptor is het no.2. which is eclipse.

i hope that helped or may have confused you more.
if you ever start breeding youll learn genetics and just remember that your 'aptor is possibly het eclipse'. if you remember that, youll know what it means and how to deal with it in the future lol.

 

[Taquiq]

Sorry to creep on your post, but Taquiq, does that mean that the only difference between a Hybino and a Sunglow is the carrot tail?

Your gecko is adorable btw

The difference between a Hybino and a Sunglow is the Tangerine Carrot Tail in the Sunglow but most people consider them the same.

Thanks!