I am not good with genetics at all. So I'm confused... I'm need to find out if my tang enigma is het for raptor and not ph raptor I would need to breed her to an eclipse or a tremper and then breed that baby to either a tremper or an eclipse? So like tremper x tang ecnigma =? And then ? x eclipse? And then vise versa? Well anyway I have a male tang and a female sunglow... What do I need to breed them to to get fantastic bright colors for my first season? Thanks for any help
Help with genetics please
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pilsboy
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well the yellow one looks bell albino to me not to be mean or anything ...
You should definitely check with the breeder on the type of albino the Sunglow is. The original Sunglow I believe was Tremper, simply due to the fact that that's what most of them are, and Trempers are, like everywhere, but other albino lines have a Sunglow morph, that sometimes goes by a different name. A Sunglow is just a SHTCT Albino, not specifically one kind of albino.
To prove your female, it would probably work best to test breed her with a RAPTOR, since that's what she is ph for. If she is het for it, you should get RAPTOR babies at some point... Like for me, to prove if my girls were het for what they say they are (they weren't advertised as poss het, but it'd still be good to know), I'd test breed Poppy with a Diablo Blanco (she is technically het for DB) and I guess I could probably also test breed Clementine with a Diablo Blanco to make sure she has the Eclipse gene. If Poppy's eggs had any DBs, she'd be proven. Or if she hatched out Eclipse, tremper, and blizzard babies, that'd also technically prove her I guess. If Clem gave Eclipse babies, she'd be proven.
Also, just my personal opinion, I wouldn't focus so much on getting the fantastic bright colors, especially not your first season. From what I understand, it's can be tough to get started selling geckos. I'd just focus on the experience, learning what to do and maybe what not to do, make some connections with other breeders, and then later on you can try for better colors. I'm going to have a very odd breeding group (I'm thinking either super snow eclipse or super snow albino for my third female and maybe a diablo blanco for my male), but I'm going with buying what colors make me happy at the price I can afford lol.
To prove your female, it would probably work best to test breed her with a RAPTOR, since that's what she is ph for. If she is het for it, you should get RAPTOR babies at some point... Like for me, to prove if my girls were het for what they say they are (they weren't advertised as poss het, but it'd still be good to know), I'd test breed Poppy with a Diablo Blanco (she is technically het for DB) and I guess I could probably also test breed Clementine with a Diablo Blanco to make sure she has the Eclipse gene. If Poppy's eggs had any DBs, she'd be proven. Or if she hatched out Eclipse, tremper, and blizzard babies, that'd also technically prove her I guess. If Clem gave Eclipse babies, she'd be proven.
Also, just my personal opinion, I wouldn't focus so much on getting the fantastic bright colors, especially not your first season. From what I understand, it's can be tough to get started selling geckos. I'd just focus on the experience, learning what to do and maybe what not to do, make some connections with other breeders, and then later on you can try for better colors. I'm going to have a very odd breeding group (I'm thinking either super snow eclipse or super snow albino for my third female and maybe a diablo blanco for my male), but I'm going with buying what colors make me happy at the price I can afford lol.
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Poppy's advice sounds good to me! The most important thing to know is if your gecko is het for any albino. Fewer people will care about the eclipse gene but it may cause problems for someone wanting to breed eye traits like marble eye or Abyssinian. breeding her to a raptor would be your best choice for proving her out but second to that would be a tremper albino. To prove her positive for a genetic trait you only need to see one albino or eclipse offspring and then you know she must have it. To "prove" she does not have tremper and/or eclipse it's generally accepted that you would need 20 offspring that do not display the trait before you can be reasonably sure it is not there. However, it is impossible to ever prove a negative so you can only ever be 99.99% sure 
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