How would i get a black hole?

[Neill]

I would love to breed one of these animals myself. I think they are beautiful. Could some one lay out how i would go about breeding my own black holes. I have a SS male and soon another SS female. I'm assuming they are part of the equation. but if I'm wrong let me know.

 

[Halley]

A Black Hole is a Mack Eclipse Enigma.

 

[paulnj]

black hole AKA mack snow eclipse enigma. you need eclipse, mack snow and enigma genes.

 

[Neill]

So a super snow with an eclipse and an enigma would not produce a black hole?

 

[paulnj]

I make mine with mack eclipse X eclipse enigma.

you have a slight chance with mack het raptor x enigma het raptor. You need one animal that's mack and carry eclipse genes and one that's enigma carrying the eclipse gene. You could use mack enigma het eclipse x eclipse

 

[Halley]

All you have to have is the following three mutations:

Mack Snow (het Super Snow)
Enigma
And Eclipse

The project shouldn’t really be a hard one genetically as two of the genes are either co-dominate (Mack), or dominate (Enigma). I’d almost do a Mack, het R.A.P.T.O.R. x B.E.E.

 

[Neill]

If i use a super snow do i even need an eclipse because the SS has eclipsed eyes so what if i breed a SS to an enigma? wouldn't that work?

 

[Nigel4less]

If i use a super snow do i even need an eclipse because the SS has eclipsed eyes so what if i breed a SS to an enigma? wouldn't that work?

The SS Black eyes are NOT Eclipse.

 

[Neill]

im lost then i went to the gecko wiki site and says 3 animals with eclipse eyes super snows, tremper eclipse, and blizzard eclipse. So i would still need some sort of eclipse to make a super black hole

 

[Nigel4less]

im lost then i went to the gecko wiki site and says 3 animals with eclipse eyes super snows, tremper eclipse, and blizzard eclipse. So i would still need some sort of eclipse to make a super black hole

The Leopard Gecko wiki isn't always correct....
The Blizzard and Super Snow eyes are not a True Eclipse. Simply eye pigmentation associated with the respective morphs.

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

So say i take an Eclipse het RAPTOR x MS Enigma there is a small percentage that i could create the "black hole" ? My question is purly for understanding genetics, i have no interest in creating this morph.

 

[eyelids]

So say i take an Eclipse het RAPTOR x MS Enigma there is a small percentage that i could create the "black hole" ? My question is purly for understanding genetics, i have no interest in creating this morph.

If the Enigma is het Eclipse, yes...

 

[Neill]

So OK then let me ask this question, if a get a gecko that is an eclipse enigma and i breed that with a SS i get a super black hole? I'm just trying to narrow it down to just 2 animals. do not have large amounts of space in apartment.

 

[Nigel4less]

So OK then let me ask this question, if a get a gecko that is an eclipse enigma and i breed that with a SS i get a super black hole? I'm just trying to narrow it down to just 2 animals. do not have large amounts of space in apartment.

You cannot produce a Black Hole from SS to Eclipse Enigma. Black Hole is Mack Snow Eclipse Enigma. Unless your super snow is Het Eclipse you will not produce one.

 

[Lottiz]

I produced a Black hole from a Mack snow patternless x Enigma het Bell. I know...unbelievably!

 

[Nigel4less]

I produced a Black hole from a Mack snow patternless x Enigma het Bell. I know...unbelievably!

Pics? Honestly it just sounds like you produced a Mack Snow Enigma with Dark Eyes... I have many of them

 

[Neill]

Hold on let me get a pic I found of a super black hole... http://www.geckosunlimited.com/comm...er-eublepharis/36784-update-some-normals.html

OK so seeing that how did he do it with a SS I'm assuming he did if hes calling it a Super black hole. Hold on think I'm understanding now the Super Snow had a het eclipse gene and then the enigma was eclipse too? I'm sorry i still cant get this genetics thing down. I am trying tho.

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Yep! You've got it! The breeders have to be:

1.) both heterozygous
2.) both homozygous *or*
3.) one heterozygous and one homozygous

...for the Eclipse gene. That is what you were missing.

 

[Halley]

The tremper eclipse is different from the blizzard, or super snow eclipse as it can be detached from the mutation it was originally found it.

But a super snow enigma, will look just like a super snow eclipse enigma.

 

[malt_geckos]

What everyone else said...lol.