Hypomelanistic?

chazthaking2

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I am trying to understand the genetics of the hypo gene. Now is it recessive or co-dom or even dom? and does anybody have any and if so what are they planning to cross with?
 

Srt14292

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Its a line bred trait.
A few breeders like to breed them into normals to make high yellows, mack snows, there is a very wide range, literally pick a morph and go with it, you are bound to come out with something that looks amazing.
 

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I am trying to understand the genetics of the hypo gene. Now is it recessive or co-dom or even dom? and does anybody have any and if so what are they planning to cross with?

Biggest half of the UK agree that hypo is Dominant with [1C]-Heterozygous and [2C]-Homozygous states.And that Super(no body spots),Tangerine,Baldie(no head spots),Carrottail are polygenic traits that a hypo may or may-not express.
 

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I have never seen anything in my breeding projects that suggests to me that hypo is a dominant characteristic; in fact, i have produced geckos in my cremesicle/snowglow project that would contradict that statement all together. I think it is a strong polygenic trait, as opposed to a dominant mutation...
 

chazthaking2

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Well first I wanted to know every bodies opinions on this subject and I thank you! I own one myself to be honest everytime I breed her with some random morph I get at least one hypomelanistic from her. This season I have gotten two. So I am led to believe so far that it is dominant and now I'm testing to see if it does have a super form. Thanks to all. More opinions needed
 

GreenKnight Exotics

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I believe that hypos are co-doms with a super form.
I say this from my personal experience. In the beginning of '08, I bred a Tremper Sunglow male to a Super Snow female, who has a a very white body with reduced pattern. I hatched out six babies, three of which were "hypo snows", with very white bodies, and yellow/green spots, and the other three were "super hypo snows", or Creamsicles. They have spotted heads, and solid orange patternless backs, with carrot tails.
After talking to the breeder of the Super Snow female, I found out that the Super Snow female had a "hypo Snow" father, and that he must have passed on the hypo gene.
The difference in the appearance of the offspring is remarkable, and because of that I feel the way I do about "hypo" being co-dominant with a super form.
Dave
 

Nir

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if you have time read this http://glasgowgecko.co.uk/Articles.html


Hypomelanistic is half co-dom and half line bred trait.

I believe that hypos are co-doms with a super form.
I say this from my personal experience.

if you bread hypos with 2 spotes you will get super hypos but if you bread hypo with 8 spots you will get hypo with less spotes. if you bread lats say SHTCT to normal you will get anormal with orange and less spotes, and when you bread the babise you will get hypo tengarin-normal.
 

Gazz

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Well first I wanted to know every bodies opinions on this subject and I thank you! I own one myself to be honest everytime I breed her with some random morph I get at least one hypomelanistic from her. This season I have gotten two. So I am led to believe so far that it is dominant and now I'm testing to see if it does have a super form. Thanks to all. More opinions needed

There has been nothing to suggest that hypo is Codominant and that super hypo is the super form of hypo.Super hypo's have been bred to normals countless times and super hypo and Normal offspring have been produced from such a breeding.That shouldn't happen if hypo was Codominant with super hypo being the super form it would be 100%hypo.In the UK a hypo is difined by where the body spots are not how meny it has.A hypo has spots that are resticted to the darker body bands.

[1C]Hypo X Normal = 50%Normal,/,50%[1C]Hypo.

[2C]Hypo X Normal = 100%[1C]Hypo.

[1C]Hypo X [1C]Hypo = 25%Normal,/,50%[1C]Hypo,/,25%[2C]Hypo.

[1C]Hypo X [2C]Hypo = 50%[1C]Hypo,/,[2C]Hypo.

[2C]Hypo X [2C]Hypo = 100%[2C]Hypo.
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[1C]Super hypo X Normal = 50%Normal,/,50%[2C]Hypo.

[2C]Super hypo X Normal = 100%[1C]Hypo.

[1C]Super hypo X [1C]Hypo = 25%Normal,/,50%[1C]Hypo,/,25%[2C]Hypo.

[1C]Super hypo X [2C]Hypo = 50%[1C]Hypo,/,[2C]Hypo.

[2C]Super hypo X [2C]Hypo = 100%[2C]Hypo.

A percent of the hypo offspring will likly mature into super hypo.
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[1C]Super hypo X Normal = 50%Normal,/,50%[2C]Hypo.

[2C]Super hypo X Normal = 100%[2C]Hypo.

[1C]Super hypo X [1C]Super hypo = 25%Normal,/,50%[1C]Hypo,/,25%[2C]Hypo.

[1C]Super hypo X [2C]Super hypo = 50%[1C]Hypo,/,[2C]Hypo.

[2C]Super hypo X [2C]Super hypo = 100%[2C]Hypo.

A higher percent of the hypo offspring will likly mature into super hypo.

So for example when you get a [2C]Super hypo X [2C]Super hypo after X-amounts of breeding generations.
The super inflance will be very strong that hypo's are likly going to be very rare in such a breeding.
 
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