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[berlynne83]

Parents were a male radar and a female bell giant, these are the results.

Pics aren't great but the dark one (who is also just starting a shed) is half the size of the lighter clutch mate.

 

[Neon Aurora]

First is a bell jungle het eclipse (possible giant)

That second one is not albino, which means something is off about your pairing. You should have gotten all bells het eclipse with varying patterns with that pairing.

Can you post pictures of the parents?

 

[berlynne83]

Here's dad

As for mom, I don't have any pics left of her, but she did have the classic albino appearance. Her father was a natural looking brute that was het bell, her mother was a het bell aswell.

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[DiAmoroso]

I'm skeptical about a giant bell, there are very, very few in existence. It was probably just a large gecko.

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[Neon Aurora]

Well, something is not right here... I've never heard of someone producing a normal from two homozygous bell albinos. Is it possible the gecko was some other type of albino het for bell?

I can't really make sense of this. Maybe someone more experienced than myself can chime in.

 

[DiAmoroso]

There is something wrong here, that is for sure. Two homozygous parents always create a homozygous. Sure, I believe anything is possible, but it's so unlikely that I can't imagine I'll ever believe it actually happened.

There are two possibilities in my opinion.

The female could have retained semen from previous breeding with another male. It is incredibly unlikely for this to happen with clutchmates.

Possibility number two is that your female is not a Bell homozygous. It is very hard to tell by these pictures, and I'm posting from my phone, but that albino hatchling might be a dark Tremper. Better pictures could help confirm. Your male certainly looks like a Radar, so if that were the case, he would have to be het Tremper as well. This would make your female Tremper or het Tremper. Back to the point though, the mother is not homozygous Bell.

Do you no longer have the mother to take a picture? Can you get a better picture of the hatchlings? Preferably with natural light.


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[AcidicAngel]

Yep, sorry... Gotta agree with everything above- If the pairing was RADAR x Bell Albino you'd have certainly got 100% Bell Albino het Eclipse... You wouldn't have gotten any Normals, which is what the darker hatchling is by the look of it.

Were the parents from a breeder?

 

[berlynne83]

It's starting to sound like I got snowed, is what it's sounding like. :/ . I picked up a trio from a pair of local breeders (a massive male who was sold as a giant het bell, a normal looking female who was also sold as het bell, and their daughter who looked like the radar just with different eyes). I picked up the radar shortly after from a separate breeder. Admittedly on a "wow what a great deal" basis. I bred them, got a pair of eggs in the incubator and gave the rest as pets to my children's friends (parents) pets when I realized i had no idea what i would do with a bunch of geckos if i couldnt find homes for them and dropped my breeding idea cold. I figured id raise the pair from the eggs up and was pretty damn sure I knew what was coming out of the eggs, since I used the handy morph calculator! These are my keepers, so its not a huge deal. Just another page in the book of idiot believes to good to be true tale and runs with it.

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[nocolizards]

As far as I know radar crossed to bell should be 100% bell her eclipse so either they where sold as the wrong morph or possibly you had a different strain of albino pit in the mix


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