Identification please :)

[Beaks]

I bought 3 geckos from petland. One for me and one for each of my two boys. My husband had a little experience with them many years ago so with his help I was able to care for them. I really didn't pay much attention as I am a newbie to Leopard Geckos and had no intentions on breeding them. I just thought they were cute

One day to my surprise I found eggs. I quickly called around to local pet stores and one hooked me up with an incubator. Well... Needless to say more eggs and more babies came.

I have 1 male and 2 females. 6 babies and 4 eggs in the incubator.

Now I am hooked on leos and want to in vest in more of the rarer ones and breed them. But more importantly, I would like to know what morphs my geckos are.

Male



Female 1



Female 2



Ill post babies in next post because pics are limited.

 

[Beaks]

Babies from male and female 2



Babies from male and female 1

 

[CharmedMom]

They are all cute.
Your male looks like maybe a Mack Snow.
Female 1 looks like a Hypo.
Female 2 looks like a Tremper Albino.
Not 100% sure what the babies are. I would guess the white and black ones would be Mack Snows. The others right now look like normals to me but they will grow quickly and change drastically as they age.

I'm really concerned that your female 1 looks way too young and small for breeding.
I hope that the male and females are not being housed together because that can really stress out your females especially when they're laying eggs.

 

[Beaks]

I wasn't aware that they could not all be housed together, thank you for that info! It didn't even cross my mind that they would breed as I THOUGHT they were much younger than they are. Someone who breeds leos told me that the females wouldn't lay fertile eggs if they weren't 40+ grams and the one you mentioned only weighs 28g. Also, what are the qualifications for a gecko to be considered a giant or super giant? My male is about the same age as my females and is MUCH bigger. He gains 10-12g a month and weighs 70 grams. I'm curious to know if that's normal weight gain or not. I think they are all about the same age... A little over a year old. I'm guessing that's the age since they were all about the same size when I got them. Again... Thank you for your response. Time to make another house for my make

 

[CharmedMom]

I wasn't aware that they could not all be housed together, thank you for that info! It didn't even cross my mind that they would breed as I THOUGHT they were much younger than they are. Someone who breeds leos told me that the females wouldn't lay fertile eggs if they weren't 40+ grams and the one you mentioned only weighs 28g. Also, what are the qualifications for a gecko to be considered a giant or super giant? My male is about the same age as my females and is MUCH bigger. He gains 10-12g a month and weighs 70 grams. I'm curious to know if that's normal weight gain or not. I think they are all about the same age... A little over a year old. I'm guessing that's the age since they were all about the same size when I got them. Again... Thank you for your response. Time to make another house for my make

As far as geckos go it doesn't matter what age or size they are males will always try mating and they can get very aggressive about it. I just think it's better to be safe than sorry especially since geckos can do some serious damage to one another and it definitely causes way to much stress to the females. On a side note: females will store the sperm and use it according so realistically the male doesn't have to mate every time for them to lay a clutch of eggs. Just another reason why I don't house any of my males with any of my females.
28 grams is far too small to be breeding. It can cause some serious problems to your female and can possibly lead to death. Also the babies may have some problems as well. To me she looks younger than a year because it looks her markings are still fading/changing. It's recommended to wait until they are at least a year and weigh at least 50 grams.
As far as giants and super giants go you'd have to buy specifically from a breeder to know for sure. Usually to be considered a giant: Males reach 80-110 grams and females 60-90 grams by one year of age. Super Giants: Males are over 110 grams and females over 90 grams by one year of age. But keep in mind this is genetic and not just an overweight gecko. Also giants will be a lot longer as well.

Also out of curiosity what sex did you incubate the babies at? Are all the babies being housed together as well?

Just know that if you have any questions feel free to ask there are plenty of people here willing to answer them for you.

 

[Beaks]

Thank you I really appreciate it...Some users can be brutal to people who are misinformed. I started researching bit by bit as the eggs were incubating. The hatchlings are in pairs, three seperate housings. I wondered if they had to mate in between each clutch? That's interesting that they store the males sperm! They incubated betweeen 84-86 (I guess the "toss-up" temperature).

 

[DrCarrotTail]

They can store sperm and fertilize eggs for up to a year without mating a second time. Some breeders keep the males and females together all the time, some only during the breeding season and some only for a day or two. Most breeders that separate them, however, reintroduce the male every 3-4 clutches to guarantee good fertility. Personally, how I keep them depends on the group. I have one male that is totally okay with the females and another who is an overzealous bully. With the latter, the females started wagging their tails and threatening him every time he moved after the first week they were together and I decided they were better off separated. I would also hesitate to leave the male in with the females if there was more than a 10g size difference between them (like a 90g male with a 60g female).

I would agree that the yellow/black babies look like normals or hypos (you'll be able to tell as they grow and their color changes) and the white and black ones look like mack snows. The ones from your second female are het albino (probably tremper). Good luck with them!

 

[CharmedMom]

Thank you I really appreciate it...Some users can be brutal to people who are misinformed. I started researching bit by bit as the eggs were incubating. The hatchlings are in pairs, three seperate housings. I wondered if they had to mate in between each clutch? That's interesting that they store the males sperm! They incubated betweeen 84-86 (I guess the "toss-up" temperature).

You're very welcome.
So it sounds like you may have some males and females. Just be careful because 2 males housed together can become territorial and can fight to the death. Just keep a close eye and hopefully in a few months you'll be able to tell their sex and move them around accordingly.

 

[Beaks]

You're very welcome.
So it sounds like you may have some males and females. Just be careful because 2 males housed together can become territorial and can fight to the death. Just keep a close eye and hopefully in a few months you'll be able to tell their sex and move them around accordingly.

Will do, thanks!!