Inbreeding?

[LeoGirl575]

I know this has probably been talked about a lot, and everyone has their own opinions on it.. But is inbreeding a leopard gecko wrong.. Even if you're breeding a cousin to a cousin or something???
I haven't inbred, but I'm wondering, because I never thought it was wrong (unless you inbred for many generations) until tonight when my friend started arguing with me.

Thanks in advance

 

[Jordan]

No, its okay to inbreed, they dont have relations and emotions to others like we do, its just another gecko. Its okay to breed an offspring back to its parents or its aunts and uncles or anyone.

But as you say, it cant go on for many generations, as thats how genetic defects will arise.

 

[Coby78]

Yeah, unless you're inbreeding for many generations, it's not bad with really any animal, until it gets out of control. Most morphs and colors that you see from domestic animals were strengthened from inbreeding.

Some people who aren't breeders have a problem with it just because it's a taboo thing for humans, but the animals don't care.

 

[Dog Shrink]

Just don't confuse inbreeding with line breeding. There is a difference. Line breeding is like grandfather to grandaughter... inbreeding is the reproduction from the mating of two genetically related parents, like brother and sister which you can't do for many generations, I wouldn't suggest more than 1-2 of true inbreeding then you have to outcross or you will run the higher risk of genetic defect popping up. As long as there is a generational seperation between the 2 animals you're breeding it is line breeding, not inbreeding. Inbreeding is usually done to secure a specific "type" that you are trying to reproduce in your animals such as color, body shape etc. Then by closly line breeding after you've laid that genetic foundation from an inbreeding is how you tweak that type to perfection.

 

[LeoGirl575]

Thank you. That was exactly what I thought. I'm not going to try to convince my friend otherwise though, because there's no need to argue about it. I'm glad this is cleared up for me though.

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

Line Breeding and In Breeding are essential to the industry. I fully believe in both and have had excellent results with it. For all the haters out there, Don't hate congratulate.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Line Breeding and In Breeding are essential to the industry. I fully believe in both and have had excellent results with it. For all the haters out there, Don't hate congratulate.

Absolutely true. This is how most of the very beautiful morphs in all captive species have been both developed and refined.

 

[Jordan]

Just don't confuse inbreeding with line breeding. There is a difference. Line breeding is like grandfather to grandaughter... inbreeding is the reproduction from the mating of two genetically related parents, like brother and sister which you can't do for many generations, I wouldn't suggest more than 1-2 of true inbreeding then you have to outcross or you will run the higher risk of genetic defect popping up. As long as there is a generational seperation between the 2 animals you're breeding it is line breeding, not inbreeding. Inbreeding is usually done to secure a specific "type" that you are trying to reproduce in your animals such as color, body shape etc. Then by closly line breeding after you've laid that genetic foundation from an inbreeding is how you tweak that type to perfection.

I thought, line breeding is breeding lines together to improve quality. Then again until the desired outcome is reached.

E.g. to create a really bright tangerine, breed a tangerine and a tangerine, and take the two brightest offpsring and breed them together to get even brighter offspring, then breed the two brightest ones again, to get brighter offspring again and so on...

its not necessarily grandfather to granddaughter as such...

 

[Dog Shrink]

Line breeding is breeding within that SAME line. For example one of the lines of rabbit I breed is called Bond's. Another is Darkside. Line breeding would be breeding nothing but rabbits from the Bond's line together either with generational gaps (line breeding) or with out generational gaps (inbreeding). If I were to incorporate something from the Darkside lines to improve on the type I already set by line breeding solely the Bond's that would be called outcrossing and would change the set type hopefully improving short comings that couldn't be bred out by line breeding solely Bond's animals together. This usually takes a few generations of line breeding again after incorporating that outcrossed blood to re-solidify type with the new improvements from the outcrossing.

No it's not necessairly grandfather to grandaughter, it can be grandmother to grandson, etc, as long as there is that generational gap. It can be uncle to niece or aunt to nephew, or even half siblings, altho half siblings would be a step closer to inbreeding since there would only be one different parent somewhere in the mix.

Make sense now?

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Mammals and herps many times do not have interchangeable information. Such as in this case.

 

[Dog Shrink]

This was moreso just to explan the concept/practice of line breeding.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Well..... that information has nothing to do with leopard geckos. The explanation will further confuse those trying to understand line breeding in herps, which is again, different from mammals.

 

[Dog Shrink]

Well we don't want to do that

 

[LeoGirl575]

Thank you 50x over..