is it white and yellow? snow? help od babies.

[beezy]

hey I bought a pair of geckos. one a regular raptor and one a white and yellow raptor. I asked a reputable breeder about the white and yellow raptor and he said it looked like a snowglow raptor. my question is what do you guys think because I feel at least one of the babies are w/y and there's definitely snow in there so I do not know what to think or label babies as. the parents are the ones that have the price on them.

 

[DrCarrotTail]

I'm no expert but my guess would be the last one with the stripe down it's back could be w/y. The others don't look like it to me.

 

[beezy]

I tought the same thing...the first one as well. its like faded when compared to the darker banded one. I will attatch updated pics in a few.

 

[beezy]

I made a video of all of them in the same bin so you could really compare colors. I think the half stripe and half banded one and the "washed out" one are both white and yellow, and I think all 3 of the light ones not the dark one are snows. they are all guaranteed raptors tho. can anyone help?[video=youtube;aQ6NVzTiioQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ6NVzTiioQ[/video]

 

[GreatGeckos]

It's hard to tell and to put an appropriate name for the babies without knowing what they truly are wouldn't be right. I would recommend test breeding the adults... Atleast the male to see what you get... Breed him to a snow female / albino female and an eclipse. That should give you a nice a look at what he's carrying genetically.

 

[Phoenix1115]

Am I the only one who thinks mom might have some snow in her?

 

[beezy]

i know..thats why theyre not up for sale. as for test breeding i bred it to the raptor and every baby is a raptor so 100% male anf female are tremper and eclipse. as for the snow i believe the male is snow..as for the female being snow i couldnt say i believe that. next year they will be bred together again to see if i get a super. and im hopeing soo much the half banded and half striped baby is a female so i can breed it back to dad since they look the same..

 

[GreatGeckos]

Cool project you have going on! I started with raptors myself years ago! They're awesome

 

[beezy]

thanks anthony!

 

[Kristi23]

I've only hatched a couple w/y, so I'm not much help. I'm not really seeing any definite signs in those baby pics. I hope someone else can help you out. Maybe e-mail the person you bought the w/y from and see what he/she thinks, too.

 

[stager]

After whatching the video I would say first and last are W&Y tremper eclipse though many will say raptor, That second Possible a W&Y mack raptor, not sure never hatched one. But the other to look just like my W&Y you see in my avatar as a hatchling. Man did you hit he odds.

 

[Kristi23]

Just watched the video. I think the light one with the orange U on its head is a w/y.

 

[beezy]

thanks guys!..anyone else?

 

[stager]

Here is a photo to compare since my a*% doesn't see so well

 

[GreatGeckos]

thanks anthony!

your welcome, sorry I wasn't more help though.
I just watched the vid as well , I think the one with the stipe on the back is prob W&Y and the other one with broken pattern an lots of white prob W&Y. Those 2 look similar to W&Y raptors I've seen... The other 1 is difficult to tell. Contact the person you bought the breeders from. Ask who's line of W&Y it is, try to compare them to the sellers W&Y raps and to the original breeders W&Y raps. Awesome geckos ! Good luck with them

 

[GreatGeckos]

Good indications of white and yellow is the large white mark on the neck like Chris's pic above displays. Also high white sides, and a white dorsal stripe. Paradox type spotting is another good indicator and "cleaner" looking tails. Hope this helps.

 

[beezy]

they do look like your gecko!..hmm..this is turning out to be interesting..lol

 

[Gary Orner]

Here is the issues.. And they are just things to keep in mind.

1) W/Y is tied to Hypo... and with one of the parents being hypo.... (super hypo) This can throw things off. I have hatched animals with no yellow at all from hypo lines.

The above is one of them and is not a snow or an albino

This is something to think about when talking about snow. But I do see where the snow is being brought up here.

Now more on the W/Y I have hatched many. Moreso bell then Tremper but I have messed up on Tremper a bit becuase my male is a G Project W/Y Het Raptor. So I am getting animals I thought were W/Y that are not. IMO.

What would I call the above. If I could trust the source that sold the W/Y to me I would say W/Y for the ones mentioned. But as we all know there are geckos out there that look W/Y that are not. The G63 line tangs look the part but are not.

W/Y is so far all over the board some are amazing others are not. Really it is a hard morph to get down. I know some will say I have it and blah blah blah. I know aperson that breeds W/Y rainwaters. Some are AMAZING! But he said it is the hardest thing to tell the W/Y in. Because he is using a Hype line

 

[Gary Orner]

Also the above is not W/Y either... It is a Atomic Tangerine.

 

[GreatGeckos]

Here is the issues.. And they are just things to keep in mind.

1) W/Y is tied to Hypo... and with one of the parents being hypo.... (super hypo) This can throw things off. I have hatched animals with no yellow at all from hypo lines.

The above is one of them and is not a snow or an albino

This is something to think about when talking about snow. But I do see where the snow is being brought up here.

Now more on the W/Y I have hatched many. Moreso bell then Tremper but I have messed up on Tremper a bit becuase my male is a G Project W/Y Het Raptor. So I am getting animals I thought were W/Y that are not. IMO.

What would I call the above. If I could trust the source that sold the W/Y to me I would say W/Y for the ones mentioned. But as we all know there are geckos out there that look W/Y that are not. The G63 line tangs look the part but are not.

W/Y is so far all over the board some are amazing others are not. Really it is a hard morph to get down. I know some will say I have it and blah blah blah. I know aperson that breeds W/Y rainwaters. Some are AMAZING! But he said it is the hardest thing to tell the W/Y in. Because he is using a Hype line

This is the reason I'm buying a pure white and yellow male! lol ...I Should have him in 3 weeks, he will be perfect breeding size / age for next season. Then the w&y fun begins here!