Is my setup complete?? Cleo comes in 2 days!

Cleo

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My first reptile ever, a leopard gecko, is going to be overnighted to me and arrive on Tuesday! Pretty excited. :) I bought her from crestedgecko.com. She is four months old and appears very healthy. There is a 24 hour health guarantee upon arrival. Here is her picture...
http://crestedgecko.com/uploads/_CGSmartImage/tangstripe12-184f-b15ba0b4fc933337c0eb672a39b535c6.jpg

I have been setting everything up in her terrarium in advance so its perfect for her when she gets here, and I'm worried that it is too crowded inside! Any input on my setup and how I can improve it would be appreciated. Advice in leopard gecko care is appreciated too. Currently I have dark construction paper taped around the outside so I can slowly adjust her to living in a glass terrarium instead of a plastic bin.

This is a 20 gallon long glass tank. I have a screen lid for it but am not planning on using it unless kids are at the house. Underneath the tank is the small size of the Repti-Therm UTH below the tree hide. The clamp lamp has a 75 watt Night Black Heat Incandescent Spot Bulb by Zilla. Barely any purpleish light comes from it at all, even in complete darkness! I have had both heat sources on for 24 hours now, and am keeping track of the temperatures with digital thermometers that have probes. Inside the tree hide reads 90.5, and the cool side inside the large rock den below the bulb reads 80.7. (I live in a basement in Oregon so my room gets a little chilly, which is why I placed the bulb over the cool side.)

There is a moist hide with some paper towel and moss in the middle. There are food and water dishes on either side of the moist hide. The magnetic rock den is in there as well. I have a cheap hydrometer in the middle that says the humidity is about 15% inside the terrarium. I'm guessing it's safe to assume the humidity is much higher inside the moist hide? There's repti carpet in there but for the first week or so there will be paper towel over it so I can learn where Cleo will like to poop.

For diet and nutrition Cleo will be eating two kinds of insects that I'll order in bulk over the internet. I have 1000 medium sized mealworms and 250 small dubia roaches. Every once in a while I might get some crickets for interest. She is 4 months old so I'll be feeding her as much as she will eat every day until she is about a year old, then work down to every other day. I am gut loading the insects with Fluker's High-Calcium Cricket Diet & Cricket Quencher.
For supplementation I am using the Rep-Cal Calcium with Vitamin D Powder & Herptivite Multivitamin. I am not entirely sure how often I should use these products for a 4 month old leopard gecko to adulthood. The directions say use 1 unit of both to dust insects with before every feeding. Unless told otherwise, this is what I will do until she is nearing adulthood. Then switch to using the Calcium with Vitamin D every other feeding and use the multivitamin twice a week. When I switch to this method when she becomes an adult, I plan on leaving pure calcium in a small cap sized dish in her terrarium at all times.

And that pretty much sums it up! Thank you for reading and for your advice. L)
 

Naato

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Yeah it seems perfect, i can tell you did your research!
but in my opinion you should use a Under Tank Heater to keep the little guy warm.
they use belly heat to help them digest and stay warm.
my vitamin/calcium schedule is:
Monday: Calcium
Tuesday: Multivitamin
Wednesday: Calcium
Thursday: Multivitamin
Friday: Calcium
Saturday: Calcium
Sunday: None/Clean cage

Good luck!
 

jemjdragon

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You need an under tank heater to keep them warm. The temperature on this should be controlled by a thermostat or dimmer. Leopard geckos need belly heat to digest food and be warm. And they are nocturnal so a lamp wouldn't be much help for heat. Also when you get an under tank heater, make sure it only covers 1/4-1/3 of the bottom of the tank.
Other than that, I have the same tree hide in my tank and my leopard gecko manages to climb on top of it when he is exploring so I would keep a screen on your tank, or your gecko might escape.

Other than that, your tank is looking good.
 
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Cleo

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Thank you for the advice. I do have an under tank heater, I just called it a UTH for short. I have the Repti-Therm Under Tank Heater (the small size) and that is located beneath the tree hide.
 

ImNotYogi

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The only things I'd suggest is getting an infrared temp gun since I've noticed my probe (the same one you have) can be off by a few degrees. I got mine at Sears ($40-$45) after returning the flimsy plastic one ($30) I found at the pet store. I'd also gutload the feeders with a mix of greens (collard, mustard, and turnip) along with carrots for moisture. While using the commercial gutloads as something extra. Here's my dusting schedule:
Sun: Rep Cal Herptivite Multivitamin
Mon - Fri: Flukers Calcium without D3
Sat: Flukers Calcium with D3

Overall I think your set up looks pretty good and it's obvious you did research beforehand. The leo also looks great.

Edit: I also leave a gatorade cap with calcium w/o D3 in the tank at all times.
 
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Kate C

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This is a 20 gallon long glass tank. I have a screen lid for it but am not planning on using it unless kids are at the house.
I believe you should use the screen lid at all times to prevent escapes.

There's repti carpet in there but for the first week or so there will be paper towel over it so I can learn where Cleo will like to poop.
I do not recommend reptile carpet. Leopard geckos get their toenails stuck on the carpet. Plus, you can never completely sanitize it.

I am not entirely sure how often I should use these products for a 4 month old leopard gecko to adulthood.
I dust with Calcium with D3 twice a week and with a multivitamin once a week. I provide a dish of calcium without D3 in the enclosure at all times.
 

Lindz0518

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I use super hot water to clean my repti carpet, I have 2 different ones so I do not have to wait for it to dry. If you turn the carpet upside down, the other side is very smooth and I have never seen my geckos get their teeth or nails hung on it. I like your tank set up! I need more decorations in my tanks!
 

mommisgurl

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It's funny because that's pretty much how mine is going to look. I have the exact same reptile den and hide,as well as the where the moist hide is :) Looks good!
 

Cleo

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I will keep the screen lid on then! Probably for the best.
And I'll flip the repti carpet over to the smooth side, that is a good idea. I'll have to get another one as well so there's one to switch out with. I read you can even wash them in the washing machine but I thought it might warp the shape of it. My parents have been going to Home Depot a lot recently though so I have been thinking about switching to tiles. Does anyone else here use those?
 

Embrace Calamity

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I will keep the screen lid on then! Probably for the best.
And I'll flip the repti carpet over to the smooth side, that is a good idea. I'll have to get another one as well so there's one to switch out with. I read you can even wash them in the washing machine but I thought it might warp the shape of it. My parents have been going to Home Depot a lot recently though so I have been thinking about switching to tiles. Does anyone else here use those?
I've seen a few people on here that use tiles. Their setups look really nice. Though I'm personally not a huge fan of all tiles because leos are known to dig sometimes, but that's just personal preference. :)

~Maggot
 

tonyperkins203

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Talk about an interesting coincidence....

I have a female high yellow whose name is Cleo. I'm a fourth grade teacher who purchased her a couple of months ago as a class pet. My students named her Cleopatra, or "Cleo" for short....lol

I am including a picture. The resemblance is incredible....

IMG_2693.jpg
 

ayoung720

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I will keep the screen lid on then! Probably for the best.
And I'll flip the repti carpet over to the smooth side, that is a good idea. I'll have to get another one as well so there's one to switch out with. I read you can even wash them in the washing machine but I thought it might warp the shape of it. My parents have been going to Home Depot a lot recently though so I have been thinking about switching to tiles. Does anyone else here use those?

You can wash them in the washing machine, but it causes the fabric to "pill up" which makes it much more dangerous for your gecko's nails and teeth. I'd recommend having 2 that you can just switch out, power washing with hot water should be enough to get them clean.

Also, you could actually have the cool side of your tank a little bit cooler than the 80 degrees that you said it is. Either just get a lower wattage of bulb, or get rid of it altogether (although you did say that your basement is cold, so you might need something). I just prefer to give my geckos a larger temperature gradient, especially because in the wild their temperatures can fluctuate anywhere from the low 50s to the upper 90s. Your gecko will be completely fine with a cool side in the lower 70s, since he/she should be smart enough to figure the spectrum out. Even if the temperature drops into the 60s leos can go into reptile-hibernation mode which is called brumation.

It's not required for you to keep a lid on at all times (leos cant climb glass so as long as you don't have tall structures near the edges you should be fine), but I just prefer to leave the lid on just in case something falls on the tank or what-not. I might just be paranoid but I have a bad habit of things falling off shelves, dropping things, etc. so I just leave it on to be safe.

Everything else you said sounds good though! You've obviously done your research. Feel free to ask me if you have any other questions!
 

ayoung720

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I will keep the screen lid on then! Probably for the best.
And I'll flip the repti carpet over to the smooth side, that is a good idea. I'll have to get another one as well so there's one to switch out with. I read you can even wash them in the washing machine but I thought it might warp the shape of it. My parents have been going to Home Depot a lot recently though so I have been thinking about switching to tiles. Does anyone else here use those?

You can wash them in the washing machine, but it causes the fabric to "pill up" which makes it much more dangerous for your gecko's nails and teeth. I'd recommend having 2 that you can just switch out, power washing with hot water should be enough to get them clean. Or you could just get tiles, which tend to look nicer and are much easier to clean.

Also, you could actually have the cool side of your tank a little bit cooler than the 80 degrees that you said it is. Either just get a lower wattage of bulb, or get rid of it altogether (although you did say that your basement is cold, so you might need something). I just prefer to give my geckos a larger temperature gradient, especially because in the wild their temperatures can fluctuate anywhere from the low 50s to the upper 90s. Your gecko will be completely fine with a cool side in the lower 70s, since he/she will be smart enough to figure the gradient out quickly. Even if the temperature drops into the low 60s or 50s leos can go into reptile-hibernation mode (which is called brumation) and be completely fine.

It's not required for you to keep a lid on at all times (leos cant climb glass so as long as you don't have tall structures near the edges you should be fine), but I just prefer to leave the lid on just in case something falls on the tank or what-not. I might just be paranoid but I have a bad habit of things falling off shelves, dropping things, etc. so I just leave it on to be safe.

Everything else you said sounds good though! You've obviously done your research. Feel free to ask if you have any other questions!
 

Ozy

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I use slate tile in my leo's cage. I have a 20 gallon long with a 30-40 gallon size Repti-therm UTH controlled by a HydroFarms thermostat set at 93 degrees. I just bought 12 tiles, 5 full sized un-cut ones are going up one side, then I had a 1/4 inch cut off the sides of 4 of them and a 1/4 cut off the top and side of one of them, put them on the other side and they fit perfectly. I didn't seal them or use grout or anything. Just scrub them REALLY well with a toothbrush, SUPER hot water and diluted Dawn dish soap, rinse REALLY well with the hot water and let air dry, then they are good to go. Underneath the tile I have hermit crab sand, because the tiles have ridges on the bottom, so the sand eliminates air pockets and helps to distribute heat evenly. For supplementation I just use Repashy Calcium Plus on every insect she eats. They don't need additional supplementation with that. Here are some pics of Ozy's vivarium. First pic is the cool side with a Fluker's Castle Crib water dish/hide combo, second pic is the hot side, third pic is the whole thing. :)
 

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lisa127

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I use slate tiles for my leo as well. I also use a night glo bulb above the tiles and it heats up the tiles to provide his belly heat. (there is more than one way to provide belly heat) Enjoy your new gecko!
 

LeoGirl1999

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I use slate tile in my leo's cage. I have a 20 gallon long with a 30-40 gallon size Repti-therm UTH controlled by a HydroFarms thermostat set at 93 degrees. I just bought 12 tiles, 5 full sized un-cut ones are going up one side, then I had a 1/4 inch cut off the sides of 4 of them and a 1/4 cut off the top and side of one of them, put them on the other side and they fit perfectly. I didn't seal them or use grout or anything. Just scrub them REALLY well with a toothbrush, SUPER hot water and diluted Dawn dish soap, rinse REALLY well with the hot water and let air dry, then they are good to go. Underneath the tile I have hermit crab sand, because the tiles have ridges on the bottom, so the sand eliminates air pockets and helps to distribute heat evenly. For supplementation I just use Repashy Calcium Plus on every insect she eats. They don't need additional supplementation with that. Here are some pics of Ozy's vivarium. First pic is the cool side with a Fluker's Castle Crib water dish/hide combo, second pic is the hot side, third pic is the whole thing. :)

:eek: I have the same castle crib combo thing, and the rock hide that you have on your warm side! ^_^ What a coincidence!

Anyways, I use reptile carpet, and my leo has never gotten his nails stuck on it.
 

B&B Geckos

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I'm impressed by your preparation/research. Your gecko is going to be one lucky pet. When you receive it place enough water in its hide for a couple of days and leave it COMPLETELY alone for 3-4 days before you try to feed it. Start by feeding mealworms first, as Dubia an crickets can stress out an acclimating gecko by climbing on them or nipping at them.
 

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