Is there possibly something wrong with my leo?

Klogue1

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Sorry guys! I'm reposting the issue in the correct format :)

About your leo:
- Sex: too young to tell
- Age & Weight: I estime 4 weeks to 6 weeks, I don't have a scale
- How long have you owned your leo: about 2 weeks
- Where was he/she obtained (ex. Pet store, breeder, wild caught, friend): local pet store (Pet Supplies Plus, they take care of there animals here at least)

A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo: Every couple of days since he's young
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how does he/she normally act which differs from now: Not different but I haven't had him long enough to know really. It's more of unusual behavior for a leo in general (I think). Stays in his warm hide all day and night, rarely comes out.
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe: None that I know of.
B) Fecals
- Describe (look any different than normal): They looked flat and dry, but probably because of the heat lamp. I will get a better look in the next few days when I get a UTH and will post it here.
- When was the last time he/she went: Not sure exact time, but he went again before I got up this morning, so I guess he went last night.
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem and how long it has been going on: His tail is much smaller than when I got him (see my second post), and he's also in his hut 24/7 on the warm side. I've seen him a few times in his moist hide. He eats, but regurgitates afterwards most of the time. I found some regurge this morning after I fed him last night.

Housing:
A) Enclosure
- Size: 20x10x12
- Type (ex. glass tank): plexiglass I believe, or just glass
- Type of substrate: Tiles with paper towel underneath
- Hides, how many, what kind: two, one warm hide and one moist hide
B) Heating
- Heat source: Originally a heat lamp. I am getting a UTH this after noon and will post the outcomes later this week.
- Cage temps (hot side, cool side): warm side is around 90, cool side gets to about 75
- Method of regulating heat source: not sure how to answer this, but I use a heat lamp.
- What are you using to measure your temps: Stick on thermometer that I lay on the floor without sticking it. Getting a digital soon and will record temps then.
- Do you have any lights (describe): Yes, 75 watt infra-red exo terra light
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females): None
- Describe health, or previous problems: None

Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What you're feeding (how often, how much): Every other day, about 8-10 crickets
- How are you feeding (hand fed, left in dish, ect): I drop the crickets in after dusting them and come back later to pick out the extras. He usually eats most of them, sometimes only about half. There's usually a few cricks left in the tank afterwards.
B) Supplements (describe how often)
- What vitamin/minerals are you using (list brands): Flukers calcium with D3 for dusting, and T-Rex leopard gecko calcium with very little D3 is in his tank at all times in a small cap.
- What are you gut loading food with: I put oatmeal, whole-grain cheerio likecereal, and baby rice in a blender and shred it into a powder. I also provide the feeding crickets with fruit and flukers calcium quencher for crickets.
 
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Russ S

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What are you using to measure the temps?
What size is the cage ans what sized UTH's did you use unsuccessfully?
Is his tank located in a high traffic area?
How old is he?
After 2 weeks he is still not likely to be completely settled in.
 

Klogue1

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What are you using to measure the temps?
What size is the cage ans what sized UTH's did you use unsuccessfully?
Is his tank located in a high traffic area?
How old is he?
After 2 weeks he is still not likely to be completely settled in.

I'm using a stick on thermometer, I know it's unadvised, I'm still trying to get a digital one. (local pet/store doesn't sell them)
It's a 20x10x12 tank approximately 10 gallons, I plan on switching him to 20 gallons as he gets older. The UTH was an 8x12 Exo Terra heatwave Desert UTH. It only measured around 80 degrees. The lamp measures around 90 according to the stick-on, which is probably inaccurate but close maybe?
I don't have an exact age as I bought him from a pet store, and I'm only assuming the sex, but I guesstimate around a month or a month and a half old.
Oh, and the tank is in my room and I usually check on him every day after I get home from school. But other than that nobody usually comes in my room.
 
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Russ S

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The temps need to be checked on the floor of the cage, not on the side.
Your temps may be too high with both the UTH and light.
Juveniles need time to settle in, and will hide most of the time.
Do you have a Wal~Mart near you? they sell probe thermometers for about $10.
Where is the cage located? High traffic area? Quiet bedroom? Too much action around the cage can cause stress.
 

Klogue1

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Thanks! He's in my bedroom, sorry forgot to mention that, I usually check on him after school and occasionally my sister or mom come in but not a lot.
Also I place the thermometer on the bottom of the tank so as to get a more direct reading, I haven't peeled the sticky side off.
Oh and I only use the light.
 

Russ S

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Also I place the thermometer on the bottom of the tank so as to get a more direct reading, I haven't peeled the sticky side off.
Oh and I only use the light.

Geckos need belly heat to properly digest their food. Just using the light will not provide the type of heat he needs.
 

Russ S

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As for the feeding issue, you might try placing a shallow bowl with meal worms in it in the cage. Something deep enough they can't easily escape from, but that the gecko can easily get into. These can be left in the cage at all times, allowing him to eat whenever he wishes.
As geckos are nocturnal, he may only be interested in eating at night when everything is quiet and dark.
 

Klogue1

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Ah ok, I will try latening his feeding schedule. I'll also look into ordering a UTH from the bean farm ASAP. Thanks a bunch!! I hope he gets better and fatter.
 

Klogue1

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I will; I was also reading bowsertime's thread about his/her gecko not eating and s/he is syringe feeding it by dabbing food onto the leo's nose for them to lick off. Do you think I should try that along with the food recipe mentioned there to put some weight on Nefarious? He seems awfully small compared to before.
 

Klogue1

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Thanks guys! I updated the first post to show everything. I am going back to the pet store today to see if I can't trade the lamp and bulb in for a UTH. I'll head to wal-mart afterwards and check for a digital thermometer w/ a probe.
I'm also thinking of trying him on mealworms, so he has something in his cage at all times. What do you guys think?
 

Klogue1

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I think his tail shrunk again overnight. That or I'm overreacting D: Would it be advisable to try giving him a waxworm or two to fatten him up a bit? Or should I stick to mealworms?
 

acharpenter

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I would leave some mealworms in a dish for him in the cage. Did you get the UTH yet?

Once you get that, he will be able to properly heat his belly. You may notice a change in his behavior (may start coming out more, eating with out throwing up etc).

He could be throwing them up as he has not had the proper belly heat to digest his food. Thats my best guess anyway

I would go ahead and try feeding him a couple waxworms but be careful he doesnt get addicted to them.

Let us know what you observe once you get the UTH and digital thermometer
 

Klogue1

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I just got the UTH, will be setting it up when I get home. I will keep an eye on him over the week.
 

Klogue1

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The mealworms are working! He was curious at first and sniffed and ate some. 2 down so far. When he is done I will set up the UTH.
 

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