Is this Emerine?

[UnicornSpirit]

Hatched this one last year from SHCT x Snowglow (Tremper).

Do you consider this bit of green to be enough to call her an "emerine"?

There are bits of gray in with that green along with a faint row of reddish orange down her back (very faint).

currently: (these next photos were white balanced but my flash was almost too high so I'm also posting a couple photos without flash and a different camera)

Without flash as to not kill nice detail:

teenage years...

Her as a hatchling... awwwwwwwwwwww!

 

[richardrojas]

Emerine is a line breed, if the parents aren't Emerine then the offspring are not Emerine.

 

[UnicornSpirit]

Emerine is a line breed, if the parents aren't Emerine then the offspring are not Emerine.

Is it?

"This green color mutation is referred to as the "Emerald" line. This morph is from a random gene mutation and not the result of a combination or line bred approach. The gene for green acts like the genetics for tangerine" ~Ron Tremper (leopardgecko.com)

 

[richardrojas]

Is it?

"This green color mutation is referred to as the "Emerald" line. This morph is from a random gene mutation and not the result of a combination or line bred approach. The gene for green acts like the genetics for tangerine" ~Ron Tremper (leopardgecko.com)

Like the galaxy!!!!!

 

[Thorgecko707]

Random mutation and not a line bred approach mean that it was originally green randomly showing up. After that he line bred it and did selective breeding for each offspring that had more green. This gecko would have to be proven through breeding to see if it had emerine hiden in it's genetics.

 

[richardrojas]

Here you go, this is quoting Marcia McGuiness
"I think blue may be a possibility. If you look at the eyelids of young geckos, it often looks like they have blue eyeshadow on. Blue (like red and yellow) are primary colors. No two other colors make up those three. Orange, violet, and green are secondary colors. They are each made up of 2 primary colors. When we see secondary colors on our geckos, it is really a combination of primary colors, usually in the layers of pigment in the skin. Since yellow is a 'default' body color, any combination of other primary colors will appear to be secondary colors:

yellow + blue = green
yellow + red = orange

Green and lavender coloration on leopard geckos is an illusion based on the natural wavelength of light in our optical spectrum. So, I would think blue would be a greater possibility; green (yellow + blue), or lavender (red + blue).

Now, my brain hurts."

or just can go the next link http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=75471

 

[UnicornSpirit]

Here you go, this is quoting Marcia McGuiness
"I think blue may be a possibility. If you look at the eyelids of young geckos, it often looks like they have blue eyeshadow on. Blue (like red and yellow) are primary colors. No two other colors make up those three. Orange, violet, and green are secondary colors. They are each made up of 2 primary colors. When we see secondary colors on our geckos, it is really a combination of primary colors, usually in the layers of pigment in the skin. Since yellow is a 'default' body color, any combination of other primary colors will appear to be secondary colors:

yellow + blue = green
yellow + red = orange

Green and lavender coloration on leopard geckos is an illusion based on the natural wavelength of light in our optical spectrum. So, I would think blue would be a greater possibility; green (yellow + blue), or lavender (red + blue).

Now, my brain hurts."

or just can go the next link http://geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=75471

Yea dude, it's too late to strain tha' brain!

I wonder if I could experiment with her if I were to get a true "Emerine" to pair her with or if those results would just be the real Emerine's genes showing through. It's just hard to believe Ron's quote when the first "tangerine emerine" he has on that same page has no visible green hues... to me, anyways. Some of them do have green though and a lot of it. Or blue. lol.

 

[Thorgecko707]

Emerald is green. Emerine is mix of tang and emerald.

 

[ElapidSVT]

while that yellow + red = orange stuff works in painting and photography, is that valid with the compounds that create color in reptile skin?

the orange color we see in leopard geckos is not made of yellow compounds and red compounds, it's due to Beta Carotene which absorbs light directly in the 'orange' part of the spectrum.

biochemistry is a little different than watercolors.

that said, the green tint in leos is due to yellow pigment overlaying lavender areas and not any single green compound.

 

[UnicornSpirit]

I wish I could be Ron Tremper for just a day so I could just be like "yea, this is an Emerald... or Emerine.. whatever dude, cuz I'm tha TREMPER MAN!".

Either way, I think she's a cool lookin' girl. I'll just call her a plain ol' Hypo for now I guess. I wish she were lavender there instead of the green.

 

[ElapidSVT]

call it a Woodbine Green! the only one in existence!!!
i don't think anyone could dispute that

 

[lillith]

I thought the greenish appearance in in tangerines was the result of lavender underlying the tangerine, to some extent...?

 

[UnicornSpirit]

@ Lillith- Yup, I think that's what Elapsids was trying to explain.