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The Geckonator
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- Winnipeg, MB
About your leo:
- Sex: Female
- Age & Weight: Just over 2 months, not sure on weight, but she looks good
- How long have you owned your leo: About a week and a half
- Where was he/she obtained (ex. Pet store, breeder, wild caught, friend): Bought from a breeder with a Kijiji ad up
A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo: Not unless necessary, she won't let me touch her without running for it
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how does he/she normally act which differs from now: Yes. Normally, when the lights are on, she may come out once or twice for a drink or a poop, but she'll then return to her warm hide to sleep the rest of the day away. When the lights are off, she'll normally be out several times, picking away at her mealie dish, grabbing any I drop for her on the floor, and taking them from my hand. For the past three days, she has been much different, starting when she regurgitated what looked to be a mostly undigested mealworm and some shed one night. During the day, she will come out and lay lifelessly by her water dish, drink for about 10-20 minutes straight, then just go to sleep there on her cool side, out in the open. During the night, she will do the same. Eyes are closed more often than not, offering her a wriggling mealworm either by hand or on the floor (her favourite place to pick them off) only elicits a disinterested response; head turns away, eyes close. On Dog Shrink's advice, I have removed her lighting during the day, which was a regular household bulb, and her 40W incandescent red viewing light at night. The first night I did this (last night), she showed a lot of improvement. She was a lot more active, climbed around everywhere, followed me on the outside of her tank, and even showed some interest in pursuing a wriggling mealie, but not enough to actually grab it. This morning, she was laying on the warm side right in front of her warm hide, body flat and head down, eyes closed. The light had yet to come in. She finally shuffled off back into her warm hide and slept there all day. Now tonight, as the light went down (I use the window's light now, for her day/night cycle), she poked her head out, climbed up into her moist hide, and (presumably) pooped. She has since re-entered her warm hide and has not come back out tonight yet.
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe: Not that I know of.
B) Fecals
- Describe (look any different than normal): Not any different than normal. Regular faint odour, white bit, longer brown bit.
- When was the last time he/she went: I think just about an hour or so ago.
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem and how long it has been going on: She hasn't eaten that I've seen for three days now. Her eyes are closed very often, though this has lessened since I've removed any form of artificial light. She seems to be drinking a lot, though I admit I'm not sure how much a juvenile 2-3mo gecko should be drinking.
Housing:
A) Enclosure
- Size: 20 gal
- Type (ex. glass tank): Glass tank
- Type of substrate: Reptile carpet
- Hides, how many, what kind: Four. One medium 'turtle hut' on her warm side, a small plastic container (her moist hide) lined with moss on the bottom and a hole cut on top for entry, a driftwood log propped up against the tank wall on the border between cool/warm that she sometimes likes to hide near, and a coconut half-shell on her cool side. She doesn't spend much time in this one at all.
B) Heating
- Heat source: Zoo-Med UTH on one side of her tank
- Cage temps (hot side, cool side): Hot side was fluctuating some between 88-96F, but I've since made sure it's keeping about 95F, give or take a few degrees. Cool side is about 77F.
- Method of regulating heat source: She's kept across the room from a large window, so that pretty much seems to take care of things.
- What are you using to measure your temps: Stainless steel-backed aquarium thermometer, as suggested by Geckos Etc.
- Do you have any lights (describe): I used to use a regular household bulb to keep her enclosure lit during the day. I believe it was about 60W. I used a 40W red reptile viewing light at night to watch her. I have since stopped using any artificial light and now use the daylight and darkness from outside.
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females): 0
- Describe health, or previous problems
Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What you're feeding (how often, how much): Dusted/gut-loaded mealworms, as much as she'll eat every night (which was usually about 7-10).
- How are you feeding (hand fed, left in dish, ect): Was mostly hand-fed, but some would wriggle out of my fingers and hit the carpet, and otherwise they're left in the dish with a mixture of vitamin dust/gut load and a carrot slice for moisture.
B) Supplements (describe how often): Her worms are always dusted and she has a dish of the dust in her enclosure every other day.
- What vitamin/minerals are you using (list brands): Reptivite w/ D3
- What are you gut loading food with: Fluker's High-Calcium Cricket Diet, Fluker's Calcium-Fortified Cricket Quenchers
Any help you guys can offer would be great. I know I had another thread going in the general husbandry forum, and you can check my thread there if you want, but this is about the whole situation here. I figured it might be best to move something like this to this forum instead of general husbandry.
Here's a pic of her from last night, to show you guys what her weight's looking like:
- Sex: Female
- Age & Weight: Just over 2 months, not sure on weight, but she looks good
- How long have you owned your leo: About a week and a half
- Where was he/she obtained (ex. Pet store, breeder, wild caught, friend): Bought from a breeder with a Kijiji ad up
A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo: Not unless necessary, she won't let me touch her without running for it
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how does he/she normally act which differs from now: Yes. Normally, when the lights are on, she may come out once or twice for a drink or a poop, but she'll then return to her warm hide to sleep the rest of the day away. When the lights are off, she'll normally be out several times, picking away at her mealie dish, grabbing any I drop for her on the floor, and taking them from my hand. For the past three days, she has been much different, starting when she regurgitated what looked to be a mostly undigested mealworm and some shed one night. During the day, she will come out and lay lifelessly by her water dish, drink for about 10-20 minutes straight, then just go to sleep there on her cool side, out in the open. During the night, she will do the same. Eyes are closed more often than not, offering her a wriggling mealworm either by hand or on the floor (her favourite place to pick them off) only elicits a disinterested response; head turns away, eyes close. On Dog Shrink's advice, I have removed her lighting during the day, which was a regular household bulb, and her 40W incandescent red viewing light at night. The first night I did this (last night), she showed a lot of improvement. She was a lot more active, climbed around everywhere, followed me on the outside of her tank, and even showed some interest in pursuing a wriggling mealie, but not enough to actually grab it. This morning, she was laying on the warm side right in front of her warm hide, body flat and head down, eyes closed. The light had yet to come in. She finally shuffled off back into her warm hide and slept there all day. Now tonight, as the light went down (I use the window's light now, for her day/night cycle), she poked her head out, climbed up into her moist hide, and (presumably) pooped. She has since re-entered her warm hide and has not come back out tonight yet.
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe: Not that I know of.
B) Fecals
- Describe (look any different than normal): Not any different than normal. Regular faint odour, white bit, longer brown bit.
- When was the last time he/she went: I think just about an hour or so ago.
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem and how long it has been going on: She hasn't eaten that I've seen for three days now. Her eyes are closed very often, though this has lessened since I've removed any form of artificial light. She seems to be drinking a lot, though I admit I'm not sure how much a juvenile 2-3mo gecko should be drinking.
Housing:
A) Enclosure
- Size: 20 gal
- Type (ex. glass tank): Glass tank
- Type of substrate: Reptile carpet
- Hides, how many, what kind: Four. One medium 'turtle hut' on her warm side, a small plastic container (her moist hide) lined with moss on the bottom and a hole cut on top for entry, a driftwood log propped up against the tank wall on the border between cool/warm that she sometimes likes to hide near, and a coconut half-shell on her cool side. She doesn't spend much time in this one at all.
B) Heating
- Heat source: Zoo-Med UTH on one side of her tank
- Cage temps (hot side, cool side): Hot side was fluctuating some between 88-96F, but I've since made sure it's keeping about 95F, give or take a few degrees. Cool side is about 77F.
- Method of regulating heat source: She's kept across the room from a large window, so that pretty much seems to take care of things.
- What are you using to measure your temps: Stainless steel-backed aquarium thermometer, as suggested by Geckos Etc.
- Do you have any lights (describe): I used to use a regular household bulb to keep her enclosure lit during the day. I believe it was about 60W. I used a 40W red reptile viewing light at night to watch her. I have since stopped using any artificial light and now use the daylight and darkness from outside.
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females): 0
- Describe health, or previous problems
Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What you're feeding (how often, how much): Dusted/gut-loaded mealworms, as much as she'll eat every night (which was usually about 7-10).
- How are you feeding (hand fed, left in dish, ect): Was mostly hand-fed, but some would wriggle out of my fingers and hit the carpet, and otherwise they're left in the dish with a mixture of vitamin dust/gut load and a carrot slice for moisture.
B) Supplements (describe how often): Her worms are always dusted and she has a dish of the dust in her enclosure every other day.
- What vitamin/minerals are you using (list brands): Reptivite w/ D3
- What are you gut loading food with: Fluker's High-Calcium Cricket Diet, Fluker's Calcium-Fortified Cricket Quenchers
Any help you guys can offer would be great. I know I had another thread going in the general husbandry forum, and you can check my thread there if you want, but this is about the whole situation here. I figured it might be best to move something like this to this forum instead of general husbandry.
Here's a pic of her from last night, to show you guys what her weight's looking like:
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It also just makes me feel better feeding something I've grown myself to my pets, rather than relying on pet stores which rarely take care of their feeder insects. One tub of wax worms I got my newts once was 95% dead and black... I'll head out to the pet store tonight and see if I can grab some superworms for Binti.
